BTW there is cancel to cancel stopBroadcast() if flow is restored
the timeout seems to be insufficient ... :(

On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 08:39, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 02:26, [email protected] <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> According to my observations: if stream is NOT_FLOWING it will never flow
>> again :(
>> this is why the connection is dropped
>>
>> That might be true for MediaType VIDEO but NOT for MediaType *AUDIO*
>>
>> In the log file (I've added streamIds to the logs) you can see NOT_FLOWING
>> but later again you can see FLOWING events. For the *same* streamId
>>
>> Example 1
>> [34mINFO [0;39m 02-10 08:11:38.220 [36mo.a.o.c.r.KStream:160
>> [ventExec-e2-t48] [0;39m - Media Flow STATE :: *NOT_FLOWING*, type
>> MediaFlowOutStateChange, evt *AUDIO*, sid
>> *d6c5db69-0d30-4ba6-b863-aa3c297e17ac*, uid
>> 9ad475f3-e994-4850-97a3-3e3717bf755a
>> [34mINFO [0;39m 02-10 08:11:47.022 [36mo.a.o.c.r.KStream:160
>> [ventExec-e2-t73] [0;39m - Media Flow STATE :: *FLOWING*, type
>> MediaFlowOutStateChange, evt *AUDIO*, sid
>> *d6c5db69-0d30-4ba6-b863-aa3c297e17ac*, uid
>> 9ad475f3-e994-4850-97a3-3e3717bf755a
>>
>> Example 2
>> [34mINFO [0;39m 02-10 08:11:52.066 [36mo.a.o.c.r.KStream:160
>> [ventExec-e2-t65] [0;39m - Media Flow STATE :: *NOT_FLOWING*, type
>> MediaFlowOutStateChange, evt *AUDIO*, sid
>> *b8e9f1a6-d29f-482c-8faf-4ac9b9939527*, uid
>> eb6a7aa7-b913-4d51-a34f-ab1ac684f27d
>> [34mINFO [0;39m 02-10 08:12:03.501 [36mo.a.o.c.r.KStream:160
>> [ventExec-e2-t51] [0;39m - Media Flow STATE :: *FLOWING*, type
>> MediaFlowOutStateChange, evt *AUDIO*, sid
>> *b8e9f1a6-d29f-482c-8faf-4ac9b9939527*, uid
>> eb6a7aa7-b913-4d51-a34f-ab1ac684f27d
>>
>> Example 3
>> [34mINFO [0;39m 02-10 08:12:16.099 [36mo.a.o.c.r.KStream:160
>> [ventExec-e2-t40] [0;39m - Media Flow STATE :: *NOT_FLOWING*, type
>> MediaFlowOutStateChange, evt *AUDIO*, sid
>> *46420fab-fcaa-493f-9283-1b2fbf9f3170*, uid
>> b996144c-9ab1-43d5-8500-da359446ad13
>> [34mINFO [0;39m 02-10 08:12:19.305 [36mo.a.o.c.r.KStream:160
>> [ventExec-e2-t40] [0;39m - Media Flow STATE :: *FLOWING*, type
>> MediaFlowOutStateChange, evt *AUDIO*, sid
>> *46420fab-fcaa-493f-9283-1b2fbf9f3170*, uid
>> b996144c-9ab1-43d5-8500-da359446ad13
>>
>> I have copied the full log of all MediaFlow State events when doing the
>> 140
>> users test here: https://pastebin.com/ZEmtZVyH
>>
>> => You can find another 20 examples of FLOWING after NOT_FLOWING for type
>> AUDIO. You can _never_ find it for VIDEO. But type AUDIO can indeed start
>> flowing again!
>>
>> I understand that this might be a challenge to detect stop events if we
>> can't use this one. But just to be clear, I'm talking about type AUDIO.
>> There must be a way to filter them out to not kill the stream in those
>> cases.
>>
>
> Great!
> Thanks for the clarifications!
> I'll add this check to the master ASAP!
>
>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sebastian
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
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>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 23:53, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 16:22, [email protected] <
>> [email protected]
>> > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I was able to fix the missing Video Pods issue. And I think it was a
>> > > successful test with 140 users.
>> > >
>> > > See:
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/OpenMeetings+140+users+test+10-02-2021+with+256crypt+and+FLOW_STATE+fix+for+not+terminating+AUDIO
>> > >
>> > > Fixes in the branch I was testing:
>> > >
>> > >    - The previously described fix to reduce the N factor in SCrypt
>> > >    calculation
>> > >    - The previous fix for adding some DB INdex on Address.email column
>> > >
>> > > And also in this one: Fix for not calling "stopBroadcast" when
>> > > MediaFlowState.NOT_FLOWING is of type AUDIO.
>> > > => I discovered in previous tests that there are almost exactly the
>> > amount
>> > > of video pods missing compared to the log event:
>> > > [34mINFO [0;39m 02-10 08:11:38.220 [36mo.a.o.c.r.KStream:160
>> > > [ventExec-e2-t48] [0;39m - Media Flow STATE :: NOT_FLOWING, type
>> > > MediaFlowOutStateChange, evt *AUDIO*, sid
>> > > d6c5db69-0d30-4ba6-b863-aa3c297e17ac, uid
>> > > 9ad475f3-e994-4850-97a3-3e3717bf755a
>> > >
>> > > I think AUDIO can stop flowing! there is no need to kill the stream in
>> > this
>> > > scenario.
>> > >
>> > > To test and verify I updated my performance investigating branch to
>> > modify
>> > > and add && MediaType.VIDEO == evt.getMediaType(): before
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/feature/OPENMEETINGS-2567-investigate-performance-monitoring/openmeetings-core/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/core/remote/KStream.java#L162
>> > >
>> > > And I repeated the 140 user test and it's fine now! (well a lot
>> better!)
>> > >
>> >
>> > This code was added because clients thought everything is OK while other
>> > people in the room were not seeing/hearing
>> > And such misunderstanding is much worse than just reloading :(
>> > I believe the change like this need to be tested extremely carefully
>> >
>> > According to my observations: if stream is NOT_FLOWING it will never
>> flow
>> > again :(
>> > this is why the connection is dropped
>> >
>> >
>> > > During this test there were almost 100 "Media Flow STATE ::
>> NOT_FLOWING,
>> > > type AUDIO"  events BUT as you can see in the screenshots most video
>> pods
>> > > are fine:
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/OpenMeetings+140+users+test+10-02-2021+with+256crypt+and+FLOW_STATE+fix+for+not+terminating+AUDIO#OpenMeetings140userstest10022021with256cryptandFLOW_STATEfixfornotterminatingAUDIO-ScreenshotsfromeachroomwithVideoPods
>> > >
>> > > There are other issues :) There is a low percentage of video pods
>> hanging
>> > > (see screenshots on some pods). But previously those pods were
>> completely
>> > > missing and the ratio of pods missing was 50-70%!!
>> > > => So I still call this a success :) Since it's a massive improvement
>> > from
>> > > the results before.
>> > >
>> > > I will raise a separated PR for discussing lowering the SCrypt value
>> (1)
>> > > and how to address the issue around MediaState.NOT_FLOWING and type
>> AUDIO
>> > > to not close the broadCast in those cases (2).
>> > >
>> > > Unfortunate NOT_FLOWING for type AUDIO, I'm not sure but we may not be
>> > able
>> > > to use this. I can also remember from the past that gaps in Audio
>> streams
>> > > can happen in a normal streaming scenario. Cause streaming tries to
>> save
>> > > bandwidth. So NOT_FLOWING for Audio may actually not mean anything.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Seb
>> > >
>> > > Sebastian Wagner
>> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
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>> > Best regards,
>> > Maxim
>> >
>>
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> Maxim
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