On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 09:02, [email protected] <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Yeah that is what I meant, maybe yo should check n case of flowType ==
> FLOW_STATE.*NOT_FLOWING*:
>
> (1) If the client is stream audio+video && the evt.getType == AUDIO => Do
> *NOT* stopBroadcast
> (2) If the client is stream audio-only && the evt.getType == AUDIO => Do
> STOP KStream by calling stopBroadcast
>
> I think (2) would not be ideal still, cause basically you are killing audio
> streams that potentially are just "quiet" but not dead. But at least we are
> not killing off a video stream because audio is quiet currently.
>
> Maybe for (2) we can also increase the timeout which may help a bit.
>

Timeout is configurable `kurento.flowout.timeout` (5secs by default)


> is there no other more reliable event we could use ?
>

Unfortunately I'm not aware of such :(((


>
> Thanks,
> Seb
>
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> On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 14:49, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > (sorry for multi-posting)
> >
> > Can you check if this code will work as expected in audio-only room?
> > I'm would like to ensure we will not break this code :)
> >
> > On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 08:43, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > BTW there is cancel to cancel stopBroadcast() if flow is restored
> > > the timeout seems to be insufficient ... :(
> > >
> > > On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 08:39, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 02:26, [email protected] <
> > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> According to my observations: if stream is NOT_FLOWING it will never
> > flow
> > >>> again :(
> > >>> this is why the connection is dropped
> > >>>
> > >>> That might be true for MediaType VIDEO but NOT for MediaType *AUDIO*
> > >>>
> > >>> In the log file (I've added streamIds to the logs) you can see
> > >>> NOT_FLOWING
> > >>> but later again you can see FLOWING events. For the *same* streamId
> > >>>
> > >>> Example 1
> > >>> [34mINFO [0;39m 02-10 08:11:38.220 [36mo.a.o.c.r.KStream:160
> > >>> [ventExec-e2-t48] [0;39m - Media Flow STATE :: *NOT_FLOWING*, type
> > >>> MediaFlowOutStateChange, evt *AUDIO*, sid
> > >>> *d6c5db69-0d30-4ba6-b863-aa3c297e17ac*, uid
> > >>> 9ad475f3-e994-4850-97a3-3e3717bf755a
> > >>> [34mINFO [0;39m 02-10 08:11:47.022 [36mo.a.o.c.r.KStream:160
> > >>> [ventExec-e2-t73] [0;39m - Media Flow STATE :: *FLOWING*, type
> > >>> MediaFlowOutStateChange, evt *AUDIO*, sid
> > >>> *d6c5db69-0d30-4ba6-b863-aa3c297e17ac*, uid
> > >>> 9ad475f3-e994-4850-97a3-3e3717bf755a
> > >>>
> > >>> Example 2
> > >>> [34mINFO [0;39m 02-10 08:11:52.066 [36mo.a.o.c.r.KStream:160
> > >>> [ventExec-e2-t65] [0;39m - Media Flow STATE :: *NOT_FLOWING*, type
> > >>> MediaFlowOutStateChange, evt *AUDIO*, sid
> > >>> *b8e9f1a6-d29f-482c-8faf-4ac9b9939527*, uid
> > >>> eb6a7aa7-b913-4d51-a34f-ab1ac684f27d
> > >>> [34mINFO [0;39m 02-10 08:12:03.501 [36mo.a.o.c.r.KStream:160
> > >>> [ventExec-e2-t51] [0;39m - Media Flow STATE :: *FLOWING*, type
> > >>> MediaFlowOutStateChange, evt *AUDIO*, sid
> > >>> *b8e9f1a6-d29f-482c-8faf-4ac9b9939527*, uid
> > >>> eb6a7aa7-b913-4d51-a34f-ab1ac684f27d
> > >>>
> > >>> Example 3
> > >>> [34mINFO [0;39m 02-10 08:12:16.099 [36mo.a.o.c.r.KStream:160
> > >>> [ventExec-e2-t40] [0;39m - Media Flow STATE :: *NOT_FLOWING*, type
> > >>> MediaFlowOutStateChange, evt *AUDIO*, sid
> > >>> *46420fab-fcaa-493f-9283-1b2fbf9f3170*, uid
> > >>> b996144c-9ab1-43d5-8500-da359446ad13
> > >>> [34mINFO [0;39m 02-10 08:12:19.305 [36mo.a.o.c.r.KStream:160
> > >>> [ventExec-e2-t40] [0;39m - Media Flow STATE :: *FLOWING*, type
> > >>> MediaFlowOutStateChange, evt *AUDIO*, sid
> > >>> *46420fab-fcaa-493f-9283-1b2fbf9f3170*, uid
> > >>> b996144c-9ab1-43d5-8500-da359446ad13
> > >>>
> > >>> I have copied the full log of all MediaFlow State events when doing
> the
> > >>> 140
> > >>> users test here: https://pastebin.com/ZEmtZVyH
> > >>>
> > >>> => You can find another 20 examples of FLOWING after NOT_FLOWING for
> > type
> > >>> AUDIO. You can _never_ find it for VIDEO. But type AUDIO can indeed
> > start
> > >>> flowing again!
> > >>>
> > >>> I understand that this might be a challenge to detect stop events if
> we
> > >>> can't use this one. But just to be clear, I'm talking about type
> AUDIO.
> > >>> There must be a way to filter them out to not kill the stream in
> those
> > >>> cases.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Great!
> > >> Thanks for the clarifications!
> > >> I'll add this check to the master ASAP!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>> Sebastian
> > >>>
> > >>> Sebastian Wagner
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> > >>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 23:53, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 16:22, [email protected] <
> > >>> [email protected]
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > I was able to fix the missing Video Pods issue. And I think it
> was
> > a
> > >>> > > successful test with 140 users.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > See:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/OpenMeetings+140+users+test+10-02-2021+with+256crypt+and+FLOW_STATE+fix+for+not+terminating+AUDIO
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Fixes in the branch I was testing:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >    - The previously described fix to reduce the N factor in
> SCrypt
> > >>> > >    calculation
> > >>> > >    - The previous fix for adding some DB INdex on Address.email
> > >>> column
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > And also in this one: Fix for not calling "stopBroadcast" when
> > >>> > > MediaFlowState.NOT_FLOWING is of type AUDIO.
> > >>> > > => I discovered in previous tests that there are almost exactly
> the
> > >>> > amount
> > >>> > > of video pods missing compared to the log event:
> > >>> > > [34mINFO [0;39m 02-10 08:11:38.220 [36mo.a.o.c.r.KStream:160
> > >>> > > [ventExec-e2-t48] [0;39m - Media Flow STATE :: NOT_FLOWING, type
> > >>> > > MediaFlowOutStateChange, evt *AUDIO*, sid
> > >>> > > d6c5db69-0d30-4ba6-b863-aa3c297e17ac, uid
> > >>> > > 9ad475f3-e994-4850-97a3-3e3717bf755a
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I think AUDIO can stop flowing! there is no need to kill the
> stream
> > >>> in
> > >>> > this
> > >>> > > scenario.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > To test and verify I updated my performance investigating branch
> to
> > >>> > modify
> > >>> > > and add && MediaType.VIDEO == evt.getMediaType(): before
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> >
> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/feature/OPENMEETINGS-2567-investigate-performance-monitoring/openmeetings-core/src/main/java/org/apache/openmeetings/core/remote/KStream.java#L162
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > And I repeated the 140 user test and it's fine now! (well a lot
> > >>> better!)
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > This code was added because clients thought everything is OK while
> > >>> other
> > >>> > people in the room were not seeing/hearing
> > >>> > And such misunderstanding is much worse than just reloading :(
> > >>> > I believe the change like this need to be tested extremely
> carefully
> > >>> >
> > >>> > According to my observations: if stream is NOT_FLOWING it will
> never
> > >>> flow
> > >>> > again :(
> > >>> > this is why the connection is dropped
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > During this test there were almost 100 "Media Flow STATE ::
> > >>> NOT_FLOWING,
> > >>> > > type AUDIO"  events BUT as you can see in the screenshots most
> > video
> > >>> pods
> > >>> > > are fine:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/OpenMeetings+140+users+test+10-02-2021+with+256crypt+and+FLOW_STATE+fix+for+not+terminating+AUDIO#OpenMeetings140userstest10022021with256cryptandFLOW_STATEfixfornotterminatingAUDIO-ScreenshotsfromeachroomwithVideoPods
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > There are other issues :) There is a low percentage of video pods
> > >>> hanging
> > >>> > > (see screenshots on some pods). But previously those pods were
> > >>> completely
> > >>> > > missing and the ratio of pods missing was 50-70%!!
> > >>> > > => So I still call this a success :) Since it's a massive
> > improvement
> > >>> > from
> > >>> > > the results before.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I will raise a separated PR for discussing lowering the SCrypt
> > value
> > >>> (1)
> > >>> > > and how to address the issue around MediaState.NOT_FLOWING and
> type
> > >>> AUDIO
> > >>> > > to not close the broadCast in those cases (2).
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Unfortunate NOT_FLOWING for type AUDIO, I'm not sure but we may
> not
> > >>> be
> > >>> > able
> > >>> > > to use this. I can also remember from the past that gaps in Audio
> > >>> streams
> > >>> > > can happen in a normal streaming scenario. Cause streaming tries
> to
> > >>> save
> > >>> > > bandwidth. So NOT_FLOWING for Audio may actually not mean
> anything.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Thanks,
> > >>> > > Seb
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Sebastian Wagner
> > >>> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
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> > >>> > --
> > >>> > Best regards,
> > >>> > Maxim
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Maxim
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Maxim
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Maxim
> >
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