Joey, I personally have been thinking of the models as convenience binaries (even though my vote thread didn't give that impression! :) because users can always train the models themselves much like they can build OpenNLP themselves. Instead, as a convenience we are providing pretrained model files to remove that work from the user. I'm certainly open to the otherside if that thinking is wrong.
Flyby comments are always welcome! Thanks, Jeff On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 6:24 PM Joey Frazee <joey.fra...@icloud.com.invalid> wrote: > Sorry for the flyby comment... > > What’s the status of the models? Are they being treated like convenience > binaries or are they a source release artifact? > > I ask because it’s relevant to what the vote is about, the process, and > the options for distribution. > > -joey > > > On Mar 15, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Jeff Zemerick <jzemer...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Richard, thanks for your feedback. That is all very important and I > > apologize for overlooking those things. And as a first release it's > > important we capture and document those steps to make future releases > > easier. > > > > Thanks to those who voted but we'll cancel this vote and try again soon. > > > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 3:00 AM Richard Eckart de Castilho < > r...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On 12. Mar 2021, at 14:39, Jeff Zemerick <jzemer...@apache.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> This vote is to release the models as version 1.0. (The models are > still > >>> available in the Dropbox folder at > >>> > >> > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p8focuz0qwvw84b/AAC6GqO8mqZn_xkAqHZsVAsoa?dl=0&lst= > >>> along with text files showing the training and evaluation results). > >> > >> As far as I can see, the files are not signed and cannot be validated > for > >> authenticity. > >> There are no release notes, no information where the files come from, no > >> license > >> information, etc. The files are also no on ASF systems (cf. > >> https://infra.apache.org/release-publishing.html). > >> > >> I don't see how in this situation a release vote according to ASF > >> standards is possible. That is > >> a vote that: > >> > >>> A binding release vote of the PMC is the critical gating step in the > >> release process. Without such a vote, the release is just a set of files > >> prepared by an individual. After such a vote, it is a formal offering of > >> the ASF, backed by the "full faith and credit" of the Foundation. > >> > >> However, the voting thread "looks" official - so it looks like you aim > for > >> such a proper release. > >> > >> I do not think the process should continue as is and should either be > >> restarted properly or > >> not take the appearance of being an official release process. > >> > >> -1 (non-binding) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> -- Richard > >> > >> >
