Rob Weir wrote:
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Guy Waterval <waterval....@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Rob,
Hi all,

2012/11/30 Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>

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That would be the point of a call for volunteers then, wouldn't it?
Bring in more volunteers with the skills needed to create an outline,
etc.  There are independent books written on OpenOffice and certainly
Microsoft Office all the time.  There are many people who have the
skills needed.  All we need to do is ask.

The goal should be (IMHO) to reach a critical mass of volunteers where
the tasks are not only doable, but fun.


My personal opinion is that the way proposed by Ricardo, with an Apache
license, is actually the more innovative and realistic we have for an
online documentation at this time. His approach has the merit of suggesting
a sustainable solution for the project and which can grow with it. So, the
reflexion should be more oriented in finding a way to help him to develop
his game, if desired..

The nature of things will lead to either:

1) We define the documentation plan, at least to the level of a list
of deliverables, a new d...@openoffice.apache.org mailing list, a
workflow, a technological approach (what formats and templates, etc.)
and a means of tracking status (page on the wiki) and *then* do a call
for volunteers.  If we do this then new volunteers will naturally
adapt to the workflow and process that already is in-progress,

or

2) We do a call for volunteers with nothing more than a new
d...@openoffice.apache.org mailing list, and hash out the details on
that list with the new volunteers.

So if someone has strong views on how things should be done, then they
really need to step up and define #1.  Otherwise, a recruitment
activity will lead to a larger group of documentation volunteers who
will have a mind of their own and could take this in other directions.
  This isn't necessarily a bad thing, of course.

Another consideration:  It is easier to find (and engage with)
volunteers who step into an ongoing activity like #1.  But it is
easier to attract an alpha "documentation architect" if things are not
already defined.

Of course, these are not hard rules, but are considerations and
tendencies.  There are no right answers.  With QA we did a call for
volunteers that was more like #1.  With marketing it is more like #2.
Translation is in the middle, with an existing workflow, but one that
is being improved by new volunteers,

In any case, I think that a new doc mailing list will be essential for
any approach, since new doc volunteers would be deterred by the
traffic on the dev list.

Regards,

-Rob

Of course, a call for participation could help, but it is not sufficient
  in itself, particularly if we don't have a clear idea of what we are
intending to do.

A+
--
gw





Rob;

I had tried to start that discussion in my original thread on user docs a few months ago. I hope that it is more successful this time around.

Regards
Keith

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