Am Freitag, 15. März 2013 um 00:50 schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Kay Schenk <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Kay Schenk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The PMC receives requests, every couple of weeks, from book publishers > > > > > for permission to use OpenOffice screenshots in a book. Most often > > > > > they are asking to use a specific screenshot from the website that > > > > > they have identified, such as: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.openoffice.org/product/pix/writer-big.png > > > > > > > > > > Generally, Apache permits the use of product screenshots in books, per > > > > > the trademark policy here: > > > > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#insidebook > > > > > > > > > > However, that only covers the trademark. There is another rights > > > > > owner to consider, the author of the document included in the > > > > > screenshot, including any text, graphics, images, etc., displayed. Of > > > > > course, the book publisher can avoid that issue by making their own > > > > > screenshots. But that is extra work. Generally they are trying to > > > > > clear permissions for dozens or hundreds of images. The more > > > > > difficult we make it, the less likely they are use it. Since this is > > > > > free publicity for us, we should try to make it easy for them to use. > > > > > > > > > > Another issue is that our posted screenshots are quite old. They > > > > > don't reflect the new Apache branding. > > > > > > > > > > Here's how we can do better: > > > > > > > > > > 1) Create a set of "demo" documents that showcase the capabilities of > > > > > OpenOffice. Use either public-domain text (Charles Dickens, for > > > > > examples) or Loren Ipsum, or original text contributed to the project > > > > > under ALv2 by the original authors. We want documents, for all of > > > > > our applications. that look good, and are clearly under ALv2. > > > > > > > > > > Multilingual text would be ideal, or separate documents for different > > > > > languages. (We do get requests from book publishers in many > > > > > countries, so having a native-language screenshot is ideal) > > > > > > > > > > 2) Create screenshots for each document, on each platform Do it with > > > > > AOO 3.4.1 for now. But plan on repeating with each major new release. > > > > > Agree on screen resolutions, color depth, and image formats, so we > > > > > have uniformity. > > > > > > > > > > 3) Host the screenshots online, along with text that explains their > > > > > purpose and permissions. > > > > > > > > > > What do we think? I can help with the webpage and with screen shots > > > > > on Windows. But I'll need help assembling a set of showcase demo > > > > > files. > > > > > > > > > > Note: aside from book publishers, this will also be useful for > > > > > journalists who want a screenshot for an article. > > > > > > > > > > -Rob > > > > > > > > I thought I remembered seeing a screenshot area on the web site once > > > upon a > > > > time, and here it is: > > > > > > > > http://www.openoffice.org/screenshots/ > > > > > > OK. That's the idea, certainly. I see variations for different > > > languages there as well. But it is all very old, some of the > > > screenshots from 2003, 10 years old! > > > > > > > > > yes...I just wanted to point this out basically. > > > > > > > > It took me a while to track this down though -- there's a link in the > > > > marketing area which needs to be fixed to get you to this older area. > > > > Originating from: > > > > http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/marketing_where.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fixed that link. > > > > > > > Anyway, these are not standard by any means, but worth taking a look at > > > > I > > > > suppose. Also NO mention of specific license which would need to be > > > > included, etc. > > > > > > > > So, there is certainly a precedent for these. > > > > > > > > yes, we should update this area. Maybe a short blog for this kind of > > > > request? > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's one approach. Ask for cool looking documents. Another would > > > be to make our own, based on a theme. For example, we could pick some > > > text, something classic, in the public domain, H.G. Wells, or Dickens, > > > but something appropriate to openness, sharing, or other open source > > > themes. Then use that text as a common element of our sample > > > documents. And then make the sample documents look good. > > > > > > > > > > > The common works are a great idea! > > A quick prototype: > > http://www.robweir.com/screenshot.png > > Nothing fancy -- but it is based on public domain content. Could > probably be improved, like with a border around the image, etc. > > would it make sense to view the plugged navigator and stylist. For 4.0 of course the sidebar. Juergen > > -Rob > > > > > > > > This could > > > work in Writer and Impress, where it is easy to put a quote. But not > > > sure what to do about Calc... unless you make a chart of "four score > > > and seven years ago" ;-) > > > > > > > > > I'm sure with a little effort we could find something for Calc. State > > budgets? Other publicly available expenditures? > > > > These kinds of screenshots would be great to "posterize" and take to booth > > exhibits as well. They would be very eye catching. > > > > > > > > > > -Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > MzK > > > > > > > > "Achieving happiness requires the right combination of Zen and Zin." > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > MzK > > > > "Achieving happiness requires the right combination of Zen and Zin." > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >
