janI wrote:
On 28 March 2013 12:04, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
On 3/28/13 11:36 AM, janI wrote:
On 28 March 2013 06:56, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
On 3/28/13 3:37 AM, janI wrote:
If I am really the only one caring for our mwiki, I agree with rob愀
concern about a single person being a risk !!
Any thought on how we can remedy this situation ?

The "Infra wishlist" we discussed here a while ago will be sent to Infra soon, in time for the Apache budget discussion. The list will include the suggestion that we can receive official support from Infra for our LAMP applications (wiki, forum). Of course we will continue and try to build a small team of project volunteers, but it would be very nice to know that Infra is monitoring our sites too.

- All our changes are documented in infra svn
Is it accessible via an Url?
https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/machines/vms/ooo-wiki2-vm

It is a protected repository, I cannot access it. This is understandable. But I assume that all Infra people have access to it.

A couple of weeks ago, #asfinfra started using a ranking system (my word
for it). Infra committers had a + added to their nick (was given voice),
... if being online and active daily for months is not "regular"
then it is not a place for me.

I almost never visit #asfinfra and I have no idea why this was done (maybe it has practical reasons, to see how many people can respond to an incident by changing configuration files... who knows), but I don't think this was done to put people like you in a "second rank". Even though this is not related to OpenOffice, every demotivating action should be justified, so I would recommend to discuss this on the infrastructure list.

I will no longer get up during the night getting mwiki back online and in
general only respond to service alerts when I happen to be on my pc. This
will probably lead to longer downtimes

This is a sane approach. As much as I appreciate your effort to restore the wiki while it's night in Europe, we cannot ask volunteers to be always available. A small team of geographically distributed volunteers with official backup from Infra seems the best solution.

translate-vm is another issue, we are still waiting for a pottle release,
andrea asked the pottle guys but as far as I know did not get a reply.

Yes, no replies so far about the availability of Pootle 2.5.

The main question for me is how we can improve the overall situation. We
need infra and the support from them, we want integrate us but want to
be accepted as well. We have special requirements based on the history
of our project, changes require a lot of work.

A first step in improving relationships will be the "wishlist", i.e., telling Infra in advance what we might need. The many needs of the OpenOffice project, especially the legacy ones, have been quite annoying to Infra also because they came after resources (people and money) had been allocated. Let's start by changing this.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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