True. What we come up with should be reviewed by trademarks@

I doubt it will be a problem. Several projects have versions of the feather in 
their logos.

Here is a very stylized one: http://directory.apache.org/

Here is a whimsical version with "The Feather": http://forrest.apache.org/

Regards,
Dave

On Mar 29, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> If you go with a stylized feather, please check with trademarks@ a.o.
> 
> - Dennis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] 
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 13:52
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo
> 
> 
> On Mar 29, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Robin Fowler 
>> <robin.fow...@outlook.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> Due to the opinions I've seen so far I've decided to make a new design:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27846912/OO_4_final_design_Robin-Fowler.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1364582663662
>>> 
>>> Overall it has a flat look and yet still some depth to make it stand out
>>> from the microsoft brand. I think it is also important to think about the
>>> form itself, the silhouette should ideally be recognisable on its own,
>>> which is one reason using the apache feather is a good idea.
>>> 
>>> 
>> I like this one too in addition to the other "flat" designs. My tendency
>> would be give "APACHE"  a bit more emphasis maybe with a more
>> blocky/heavier font. Size-wize it seems about right. I know this is not a
>> good explanation.
>> 
>> And, I like the feather but think maybe it needs to be a bit smaller from
>> top to bottom in relation to the orb, and perhaps a slightly different
>> color unless that causes clashes/concerns. Really I like this one quite a
>> bit! And I have enjoyed your other work also. Really I amazed at the amount
>> of creativity and quality in these designs!
> 
> Agreed and the wiki has some very nice progressions. I think that there is 
> room for a large version Orb w/subtly shaded landmasses that would work well 
> in large format versions of the logo.
> 
>> 
>> Some other thoughts:
>>> 
>>> One of the problems i see with a lot of the proposals is the lack of
>>> thought given to typography. It seems the text is just slapped on as an
>>> afterthought, in many cases the 'apache' is floating somewhere randomly
>>> above 'openoffice'. Think of what you want the logo to imply, it should not
>>> look disorganised. Another thing worth pointing out is the kerning (spacing
>>> between letters) which could be optimised on some of the proposals.
> 
> As I shrink the Logo image to smaller sizes. I think that the LogoType gets 
> too small too quickly.
> 
> But one of the beauties of this kind of logo design is that you can set a 
> minimum size for the type and have that be larger than the minimum size for 
> the orb/feather combination.
> 
> I also like Chris R's logos - #13.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>>> 
>>> This is an extremely important aspect of the whole logo design and should
>>> be considered when choosing a design. After all, many logos consist of
>>> nothing other than text.
>>> 
>>> I also want to say i really like Vasilis Xenofontos design. It might be
>>> too different from the current, but it's a very good logo imo.
>>> 
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>> On 28 Mar 2013, at 12:38, Samer Mansour <samer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Robin brought up a good point that we should pick a logo before we start
>>>> work on the application artifacts or the website as it will influence
>>> those.
>>>> 
>>>> I initially was excited that we could have a new logo, an opportunity to
>>>> change the face of OpenOffice.
>>>> 
>>>> But after I saw Chris R. proposal I convinced myself refreshing rather
>>> than
>>>> re-branding was the better path.
>>>> 
>>>> So I would like to start a conversation that will hopefully give us
>>> strong
>>>> arguments to picking a logo.
>>>> 
>>>> I already mentioned I liked the flat logo.
>>>> Here are reasons:
>>>> 
>>>> - It is very similar to the current logo and that logo has a history of
>>>> being recognized.
>>>> - Flat is 'in', easily recognizable on and works well on social
>>> platforms,
>>>> screens and print media. (Think corporate and product logos of today,
>>>> recently Pepsi, Domino's, Microsoft, Skype, Twitter)
>>>> - This logo can be severed from the word mark to make it fit in a square
>>>> and still carry the branding image. Icons, site, etc.
>>>> - A middle ground for community members who like the current logo. Who
>>> want
>>>> to achieve a new image of 4.0 without tossing history.
>>>> 
>>>> Looking back, we had lots of ideas but it only took me a moment when i
>>> saw
>>>> Chris r.'s proposal to realize the logo didn't need to be complex and
>>>> completely new. That simple was actually beautiful.
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts? Agree? Disagree (and your solution is)?
>>>> 
>>>> Samer Mansour
>>> 
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