-------- Original Message -------- From: Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org <dev@openoffice.apache.org>, Dennis Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 08:45:32 -0400
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org> wrote: >> I think if the "Apache" is made thicker by using Bold and a touch darker >> grey, it will work much better, at least as positioned in the Rottensteiner >> Stage 2 refinement. It also gives "Apache" more (symbolic) weight without >> overpowering the "OpenOffice" part. >> >> I agree one wants to use the best of resampled PNG and regenerated SVG at >> the lower size. Also, if the SVG has hints about the visually-intended size >> (at whatever pixel resolution), the fonts may be adjusted automatically to >> avoid excessive thinning at smaller presentation sizes. Then there are the >> tricks needed when rasterization also becomes significant. >> > > Right. And I hope that no one thinks that we're voting for pixels > carved in marble. We're voting on a design. I'd expect ordinary > technical adjustments to be made to suit the scale and medium of a > particular use. It should feel the same to a user, of course. That's > the advantage of having the vector source to a logo. With the current > logo it has been difficult to work with, since we only have the orb as > a bitmap. > > -Rob Maybe I am missing something here (very possible), but I have the current logo and a couple of variants in svg format. If required I would be happy to upload them. If someone would be kind enough to advise me how to create a public html page ~bmcs (like https://people.apache.org/~arielch/), I will put all the OOo & AOO related svg images I have collected there. Dave >> - Dennis >> >> I don't have enough personal knowledge about SVG implementations and font >> hinting (although Adobe has information about it). I do know that Knuth had >> to introduce anomorphic scaling into his fonts because the smaller ones >> would become visually too thin at the smaller point sizes if simply scaled >> geometrically. It's a human vision thing. He was producing images for >> production publishing systems and had a luxury of pixels; there was more >> involved that nudging pixel alignments. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 04:54 PM >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS] Logo selection for Apache OpenOffice 4.0 >> >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Staring a [VOTE][DISCUSS] thread parallel to the [VOTE] thread. >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> . >>> . >>> . >>>> >>>> My comments with some very preliminary testing: the VERY LIGHT gray >>>> "Apache" in any form doesn't scale well going smaller. The very thin >>>> letters also don't scale well going smaller. >>>> >>> >>> How did you scale the image? By resizing the PNG file? If so that >>> probably doesn't give the optimal quality. >> >> >> yes, this is what I did... >> >> >>> If we resize from the SVG >>> source, and if the SVG references a vector font with "hinting", then >>> it is possible that the text will be clearer at smaller sizes. In >>> theory that should help with the letter scaling. Not sure about the >>> light gray. >>> >> >> Well maybe someone could resize appropriately. Our current "web" logo is >> only 200 x 100. I actually used 300 x ??? (kept the aspect ratio) and >> things were not great on any of these with that very light gray >> "Apache"...even slightly darker would help I think. >> >> >>> -Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
