On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Hans Zybura <hzyb...@zybura.com> wrote: > Hi, > in case someone will still listen to me... > > 1. In my eyes, the essence of the blog post is a denial of taking > responsibility, expressed on a highly abstracted level. The question at hand > is concrete, not "version X". Even if the answer is not clear, you can inform > the interested reader about a (revision of a) planned schedule. >
I don't think one needs to search for an ulterior motive here. The post is exactly what it says it is. It is a post that we can use as a stock response for when we get such questions, to educate our users about how we develop software and why we do not give specific release dates in advance. > 2. May I politely point out again, that there is a website > > https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-40-release-planning.html > > containing a "Proposed Release Schedule"? > > Of course I don't take such a schedule for absolutely granted, but it *is* a > published schedule. Google search "release aoo 4.0" first rank. For anyone > with a busy work life not following the mailing list, random blog posts, > twitter, facebook, or anything like that, this seems to be *the* point of > easy to find, seemingly official information. With a random multitude of > information channels, an "outsider" has to rely on something stable, where > yesterday's information is not hidden behind newer entries. > We have a lot of stuff on the wiki. That doesn't make it an officially published schedule. And remember, even if we do not give specific release date guidance, we still need, for internal use, a rough schedule to coordinate our own efforts, for our own planning purposes. So we will have rough schedules on the wiki. We know the limitations of a proposed schedule and know that it is merely a very rough estimate, but it is useful. We don't have a private wiki for only internal use, so there is always some risk that a project outsider stumbles on such a page and fails to understand what it means. > If plans are changed, I assume that the information on that website is > changed. Does this assumption has some logic to it? > If you believed so then it had logic for you. But based on what I said above, maybe your view on this changes now? > If so, why is it not done? Because in an open source project no one is > responsible for something he/she doesn't *feel* to be responsible for? > Those who are active in the project know with rather high precision where exactly the release is, based on discussions on the dev list. Those who are not active in the project will have less insight. But I don't feel responsible for publishing a public day-by-day reckoning of progress on AOO 4.0. In fact I don't think that is a productive use of anyone's time. Thus a blog post to answer these kinds of questions now and for the future. Regards, -Rob > Kind regards, Hans > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] >> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:21 PM >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Draft blog post: When will OpenOffice version X be released? >> >> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=when_will_openoffi >> ce_version_x >> >> Since we get this question frequently, I thought it would be good to have a >> canonical response we can point people to. >> >> It needs some editing, but mainly looking for content feedback initially. >> >> -Rob >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
