On 8/19/13 10:56 PM, Ricardo Berlasso wrote: > 2013/8/19 Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com> > >> On 8/19/13 1:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Ricardo Berlasso <rgb.m...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> (top posting) >>>> >>>> User SLV-es from ES forums proposed a new logo >>>> >>>> >> http://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/download/file.php?id=3924&mode=view >>>> >>> >>> Why aren't we just using the proper AOO logo, the same one we use on >>> the website, the blog, the wiki, etc.? If we can do that then the >>> user will understand that this is an official website. Consistency is >>> good for this. And then you can have a text title that says >>> "Community Support Forum" or something like that. >> >> exactly I do not understand either this discussion, why not using the >> new existing one. Maybe tweaked to fit in the forum header >> > > > Note that I'm not in favour of using a different logo on forums, but that > I'm not particularly in favour of using the same either. I think there is a > difference between "consistent branding" and "plain homogeneity" and that > there is room for small changes without loosing the "branding" (underlining > _small_). > > IMO, the discussion about the forum logo have two background points. The > first one is historical: forums used a custom logo since the beginning. > This is not bad for itself... nor good: it's just a fact. > > The second point is more "technical": with the blue background the official > logo will be lost. There are two ways of solving this, a change on forum > header background or a custom logo: the solution used up to now. > > User SLV-es created a new proposal (uploaded on the issue): > > http://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/download/file.php?id=3926&mode=view > > Basically, it's the official logo with the addition of the lifesaver to > emphasise the idea of "help". I find the concept nice, but that's just me ;)
I saw this already and think it serves well for this purpose Juergen > > Regards > Ricardo > > > > >> >> Juergen >> >>> >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> >>>> On his own words, it needs some work but IMO it shows an interesting >> tweak, >>>> maintaining both, colours and fonts from original logo but with a >> variant >>>> that suggest "help" (the main forum purpose). >>>> >>>> I suggested the author to attach his proposal to the issue. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Ricardo >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/8/12 Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> >>>> >>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Ricardo Berlasso <rgb.m...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> 2013/8/11 Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There is also other sites like extensions, www and >>>>>>>> openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>> blog, templates. We have a new logo, which means the sites need >>>>> to be >>>>>>>>>>> updated. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Since AOO hasn't really mature to the old OOo days where there >>>>> was a >>>>>>>>>>> dedicated webdev project to handle all sites, is clear there >>>>> needs to >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>> some initiative from somewhere to perform this mantainance. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So the status is: >>>>>>>>>>> blog, www, extensions and o...@apache.org have the new logo >>>>>>>>>>> templates, forum, wiki, forum index still on the old logo or >> don't >>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> previous logo at all. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I develop an incremental adaptation of the logo to perform a >>>>> similar >>>>>>>> font >>>>>>>>>>> to the new logo which uses Sans Pro. But kept the 3 gulls >> artwork. >>>>>>>> Andrea >>>>>>>>>>> recomended to replace the 3 gulls with the orb. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Why would you change the font? And what did you change it too? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998#c0 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The bugzilla does not answer my question. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You used two fonts what are they and what is the license? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IIRC open sans is Apache licensed. Why change? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think you missread, they were change into Sans Pro. Please look at >> the >>>>>>> source SVG for 1 to 1 comparison from legacy to new one based on the >>>>>>> current AOO Logo. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Adobe's Source Sans Pro font is OLF licensed while, as Dave said, open >>>>> sans >>>>>> is Apache Licensed. IMO, if you changed from open sans to source sans >> pro >>>>>> then Dave's question is perfectly valid. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So we're all on the same page: the AOO 4.0 Logo uses Source Sans Pro. >>>>> This must not be changed without discussion and PMC approval. If the >>>>> idea is to update the old forum/wiki headers to use Source Sans Pro >>>>> and new logo elements, then this sounds like the right direction. >>>>> >>>>> -Rob >>>>> >>>>>> Regard >>>>>> Ricardo >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> An issue has been put in place on bugzilla #122998 with all the >>>>>>> samples >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> sources. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Hagar Delest < >>>>>>>> hagar.del...@laposte.net >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The question was raised in another thread but better have a >>>>>>> dedicated >>>>>>>>>> one. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What is the status with the headers exactly? A user will >>>>> certainly >>>>>>>>>> visit 3 >>>>>>>>>>>> areas first: the main site, then the wiki and the forum. Today >>>>> they >>>>>>>>>> have 3 >>>>>>>>>>>> different headers. As pointed out by Andrea, we need a >> consistent >>>>>>>>>> branding >>>>>>>>>>>> to give users a kind of security feeling. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've made a dedicated topic in the forum showing the 3 current >>>>>>> headers >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> a proposal I've made very quickly: >>>>> http://forum.openoffice.org/** >>>>>>>>>>>> en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=**63523< >>>>>>>>>> http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=63523> >>>>>>>>>>>> No need to register to see it so have a look. >>>>>>>>>>>> The point is: we should have the same branding (icon + text) at >>>>>>> least >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> every areas, at the same location. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hagar >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org >> < >>>>>>>>>> dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Alexandro Colorado >>>>>>>>>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Alexandro Colorado >>>>>>>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor >>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Alexandro Colorado >>>>>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor >>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
