On 15 November 2013 18:59, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann < > orwittm...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On 15.11.2013 08:38, janI wrote: > > > >> On 15 November 2013 08:25, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann < > >> orwittm...@googlemail.com > >> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >> > >> Hi, > >>> > >>> > >>> On 15.11.2013 00:54, Kay Schenk wrote: > >>> > >>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:26 PM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 14 November 2013 03:32, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Andrea Pescetti < > >>>>> pesce...@apache.org > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> On 12/09/2013 Kay Schenk wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Did we reach a consensus on this one? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Wait until 4.1 to "officially" change java build environment to 7? > >>>>>>>> Buildbots are still at 6, although I know some of us are using 7 > for > >>>>>>>> building with no problems. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> We didn't reach consensus, the reason being (rather than > >>>>>>> disagreement) > >>>>>>> that it's unclear: > >>>>>>> - what the proposal is about exactly > >>>>>>> - what's broken in the current setup > >>>>>>> - what's the impact on people who wish to build OpenOffice > >>>>>>> - what's the impact on people who wish to use OpenOffice > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Now, after yet another discussion where we explain Java to each > >>>>>>> other, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> can take for granted that we all know about it and move on and see > >>>>>> what > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>> > >>>>>> proposal is about in concrete, so that is can be evaluated properly > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>> maybe implemented in time for 4.1. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Andrea. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>>>> --------- > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OK, I'm back on this old thread. The thing is the security > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> considerations > >>>>>> do not just apply to Windows. I suggest we switch to java 7 as > >>>>>> default > >>>>>> > >>>>>> and > >>>>> > >>>>> change the settings for "javacompiler" in configure.inappropriately > >>>>>> to > >>>>>> deal with this. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Although by default, I build with java 7, I will make this change > >>>>>> locally > >>>>>> and see what happens. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> +1, so we use java 7 for development, but the final installation > >>>>> still > >>>>> runs > >>>>> with both java 6 and java 7. > >>>>> > >>>>> rgds > >>>>> jan I. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Well, in theory, yes. In practice -- I guess not. :( > >>>> > >>>> I changed my configure.in etc and rebuilt. Then a final stop with > this > >>>> message -- > >>>> > >>>> javac: source release 1.7 requires target release 1.7 > >>>> > >>>> in module jvmfwk > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The man page for javac (openJDK 7)has this info talks about "default" > >>>> values for targets depending on source...here are the last bits of > that > >>>> > >>>> o If -source is 1.5, the value of -target is 1.7 > >>>> > >>>> o If -source is 1.6, the value of -target is 1.7 > >>>> > >>>> o For all other values of -source, the value of -target is the > value > >>>> of > >>>> -source. > >>>> > >>>> but no specific information saying iyou can NOT specify a target > value > >>>> that is below your source value. > >>>> > >>>> I imagine this is universal and not just specific to openJDK but I > don't > >>>> know for sure. > >>>> > >>>> Any other ideas? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On my attempt to build on Windows with Java 1.7 (Windows 7 64bit Home > >>> Premium VM) I did the following: > >>> After having setup the build environment via configure, bootstrap and > >>> sourcing the creating 'winenv.set.sh' I set the environment variable > >>> JAVAFLAGS to "-source 1.5 -target 1.5" by command > >>> - export JAVAFLAGS='-source 1.5 -target 1.5' > >>> > >>> My build was sucessfull and the resulting installation set worked on a > >>> different Windows machine with Java 1.6 > >>> > >>> > >> I have done a similar thing on ubuntu 12.04, manually modified > >> LinuxX86-64Env.Set.sh and it builds correctly. > >> > >> > >> > >>> Unfortunately, I did not continued my work on it - e.g. > >>> - detecting the Java version during configure > >>> - setting JAVAFLAGS automatically depending on the detected Java > version > >>> > >>> > >> It seems the right place to do this is configure.in. But why detect > >> version, why not simple set the flags ? > >> > >> > > Yes, you are right. > > When it works in the build environment with all the different Java > > versions this is the simply solution. > > > > > > > > Best regards, Oliver. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > > Unfortunately for this little trial, I apparently misunderstood the > reasoning, and did this -- > > javac -source 1.7 -target 1.5 > > which javac got upset with, and thus my error. > > On the other hand, I did get a lot of warnings (I use verbose build option) > -- not permanently kept -- that were no doubt about deprecated or changed > methods in our current code. > These may be useful to us, I don't know. >
How about making a BZ with the deprecated or changed methods, that could be a nice task a java developer. Maybe we don't need the "-source", just "-target"? > On ubuntu, it assumed 1.7 if I did not specify -source, and that gave me a lot of warnings (could be the same you saw). Adding -source 1.5 tell java that the source is 1.5. > > I also changed some of the other java "requirements" in configure.in to > require 1.7 for building. > > So, I will play with this more in the next few days, and report back. > Looking forward to hear that, it seems we are many now working on changing different parts of the build system. have a nice weekend. rgds jan I. > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, > Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” > -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax >
