On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:
> Dave Fisher wrote:
>>
>> No links to snapshots from the website. It is ASF policy.
>
>
> It is not ASF policy. It is the way we have interpreted it so far.
>
> Policy is here http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what but as already
> discussed with the Board the key is that visitors pass through a page that
> makes it clear the dev builds are for our developers (meaning "anyone
> contributing toward the development of our product"). So the policy issue
> seems mostly solved to me. Feel free to ask me in private for discussion
> links.
>

The problem is we cannot control what 3rd parties do.  They can easily
deep-link to our dev build page directly, bypassing any "warning" page
that they might have.

Of course, they could do that today, to ci.apache.org, if they knew about it.

When 3rd parties promote unofficial builds, we can run into the
following problems:

1) Users get a lower-quality product and this hurts our brand reputation

2) The developer builds may not meet all ASF release requirements,
e.g, checks on NOTICE and LICENSE files, so errors in this area can
hurt the ASF's brand reputation.

3) We do not offer upgrade notifications for developer builds.  So
users can become "stuck" on an unmaintained product and be susceptible
to security issues, etc.  This harms the user and our reputation.

So we have a strong incentive to ensure that developer releases are
not widely available to the public.   I'm not sure what problem we're
solving that would recommend putting a link (direct or indirect) to
developer releases on our main download page, which gets *a million
visits per week*.   We should be very careful about that.

Was there something that did not work with sharing the ci.apache.org
address on the dev and qa lists?

Other solutions:

1) Share the developer build link on the QA page, not the public
download page that gets 1 million visits per week.  If the goal is to
have only project members download, then put it on a page that only
project members read ;-)

2) Add some authentication on the actual developer build download
page.   Ideally, tie it having a BZ account.

3) Put a date-based expiration into developer builds, to discourage
long-term use.

Regards,

-Rob

>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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