<below> -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [mailto:and...@pitonyak.org] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 22:26 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)
Do you know off hand if this is through OLE or some other mechanism? I have been handed a docx files with something embedded inside that prevents viewing because I do not happen to have that particular application installed on my computer. <orcnote> Without looking at the docx file, I have no idea. Usually OLE objects still provide viewing without the OLE "host" application. An alternative metafile rendition of the object's presentation is typically incorporated in the DOCX (or DOC) just so that viewing is possible. The same thing is done with ODF when OLE objects are used (at least by OpenOffice.org apps). Are you attempting to view the document in Microsoft Office or in Apache OpenOffice? I see that I should have been more nuanced about "ridiculous practice." I meant for malicious purposes. Of course, there are thoughtless practices where uses expect that anything that works for them will work for recipients of their document files. I recall folks who would email Microsoft Publisher documents to lists of users with no idea that recipients could not read those attachments. The rise of PDF has repaired that particular situation, but many creators of DOCX files can fall into the same "works-for-me" pitfall. I still get TIFF attachments from Macintosh users and it is a pain to arrange to view them (not all of TIFFs many options being handled by all TIFF viewers). Of course, if a document depends on installed extensions, we have the same problems in interchange among Office users and OpenOffice users. As you know, there are many more cases of naïve use that impede collaboration via editable forms of documents. Simply having styles used consistently is a problem for some meticulous document creators. What I find missing in the current document-interchange situation is the availability of enforceable templates that deny the use of features not provided for in a template-controlled profile. This would stamp out a variety of evils, but there is a downside too, since it takes power users to create them and fend of "why can't I ... ?" questions. </orcnote> On 10/25/2014 12:50 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > To be clear, I can put a complete Word Document (as a binary blob) inside of > an ODF Text document too. I just don't know if that particular avenue is > what was taken as a smoking gun about OOXML or not. I can put a complete ODF > Text document (as a binary blob) inside of an OOXML .docx too. > > The fact that this is possible is no blemish on either of the ODF and OOXML > specifications. It is not something anyone makes ridiculous practice of. > > - Dennis -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
