Roberto,

The designers are pressing us hard.  I will put in Apache OO Logo
 provisionally. OK?

Basil

On 4 September 2015 at 15:37, Roberto Galoppini <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Basil,
>
> I'm sure you'll get an answer, but unfortunately I can't commit to provide
> you with an answer in a short time frame. Our Chair will sort out a way to
> manage this situation, though.
>
> Roberto
>
> 2015-09-04 16:25 GMT+02:00 Basil Cousins <ba...@openforumeurope.org>:
>
>> Roberto,
>>
>> We need to close very soon.  When can you let me know about English
>> version?
>>
>> Basil
>>
>> On 4 September 2015 at 15:04, Roberto Galoppini <
>> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Basil,
>>>
>>>  Nice to catch up again. I want to clarify that here I'm expressing only
>>> my opinion, we do need the PMC to establish if we want - as a community -
>>> to sponsor the English version.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> 2015-09-04 14:31 GMT+02:00 Basil Cousins <ba...@openforumeurope.org>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Roberto,
>>>>
>>>> Great to be in touch.  I will ask Graham Taylor to raise an invoice for
>>>> £100+VAT to cover the English Version.
>>>> Can you let us have the address to be put on the invoice?
>>>>
>>>> Shal we use the same logo as in the London version for Apache Open
>>>> Office or is there a more recent one?
>>>>
>>>> Basil
>>>>
>>>> Basil
>>>>
>>>> On 4 September 2015 at 12:38, Roberto Galoppini <
>>>> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-09-04 5:06 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Comments inline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On 03 Sep 15, at 16:24, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > As we discussed some weeks ago, the next ODF Plugfest will be held
>>>>>> in The Hague, Netherlands, mid-September:
>>>>>> > http://plugfest.opendocumentformat.org/2015-thehague/programme/
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > There are three issues that require attention in a very short time.
>>>>>> Deadline is 8 September when not otherwise specified.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 1) Is anyone going in the end? We discussed this at length. I've
>>>>>> never considered going since it overlaps with another event I'm scheduled
>>>>>> to attend. Dennis and Roberto were both mentioned (and Dennis later
>>>>>> clarified he is busy in the US). Of course if someone goes we can still
>>>>>> discuss to allocate a budget from our events fund.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When I made plans to go I didn't know about much about my calendar of
>>>>> business meetings. As of now I can't commit to that trip, unfortunately.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The event somewhat overlaps with a personal engagement but that may
>>>>>> be negotiable. It depends on how much subsidy we have to support this 
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> late trip—of mine, I mean. I’d be coming from Toronto, Canada. A quick
>>>>>> price check via Orbitz reveals that for a flight via the dodgy Air 
>>>>>> Transat
>>>>>> the cost (R/T) would be about 740 USD. Include an Airbnb room—don’t know
>>>>>> how much that would be but probably not that much, though still, for 
>>>>>> three
>>>>>> days, at leasts 150 USD, and probably more. (I’m guessing the Hague is
>>>>>> costly.) Besides Air Transat, the average price for airfare to AMS is 
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> 1300 USD; to the Hague (Rotterdam) 500 USD more or so. I’m guessing a 
>>>>>> train
>>>>>> trip from AMS is cheaper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve been to several of these events, including, I think, the
>>>>>> initiating one. I know ODF fairly well, was on the Oasis TCs, etc. (I 
>>>>>> quit
>>>>>> them a couple of years ago.) The drawback for me going is I’m not
>>>>>> developing ODF or for ODF and though I can certainly represent AOO’s
>>>>>> continued interest in furthering usage of ODF, not to mention other 
>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>> projects’ ODF work, to some extent I’ll be mostly competent at relaying
>>>>>> speech.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree, and I think it would be important to give a speech about our
>>>>> concerns around office formats' interoperability.
>>>>> I believe we can still ask Michiel or Basil to accommodate a similar
>>>>> ask.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 2) I was contacted (for no special reason; I've never attended a
>>>>>> Plugfest) by Basil Cousins of Openforum Europe, who gave me permission to
>>>>>> forward his request here, about updating a leaflet for the next ODF
>>>>>> Plugfest. The 2014 version is here:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> http://openforumeurope.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/OFE-COIS-DFD-ODF-Open-Document-Principles-for-Government-Technology-March-2015.pdf
>>>>>> > and there is also an infographic available at
>>>>>> http://www.openforumeurope.org/library/odf-toolkit-2/
>>>>>> > Can you please suggest content updates to this leaflet? Basil in is
>>>>>> CC. We can discuss updates on this list and then one of us, ideally 
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> who attends the event, can send the final comments to Basil. The part
>>>>>> needing more attention is the Applications Choices section on page 5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can look at it, too. But others, here, can surely weigh in. I think
>>>>>> we have talent to enhance this, no?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 3) For this leaflet they also ask for a contribution for printing.
>>>>>> One can support printing the English version (addressed to UK 
>>>>>> government),
>>>>>> the Dutch version (addressed to Dutch government) or both. The 
>>>>>> contribution
>>>>>> is 100 GBP (so about 135 EUR or 150 USD) for each edition. If you feel it
>>>>>> would be useful, I assume that the fund for events and merchandising 
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> be used to support this. Please state if you propose that we allocate
>>>>>> budget and, in case it's a yes, if you'd rather contribute to the English
>>>>>> version or both versions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it would be money well spent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Agree for the English version, as far as we can also enrich its
>>>>> content, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roberto
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Note. This ODF Plugfest brings together some rather important players
>>>>>> form the UK, which is supposedly tending toward it. Independent of any
>>>>>> particular implementation’s concerns or desires, it is, as Roberto G.
>>>>>> pointed out, important that there be *real* solid interest in working 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the government to satisfy their mandate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>>> >  Andrea.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> -best
>>>>>> louis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
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>>>>>
>>>>
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