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-----Original Message----- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 00:25 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] SUSTAINABILITY: The AOO PMC On 09/09/2015 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > the only nominee to step forward had been on the PMC six months I don't see this as a major issue. I mean, it was the third Chair election of the year (and it was still August), it came unexpected and we had seen painful nomination/acceptance/declination stories in the previous months; I believe this is the reason why people, knowing that you were already available, did not jump in and nominate themselves. <orcmid> Until I suddenly had the job did I appreciate how much my shallow experience on the PMC was not enough and I am having to be a very quick learner. If I had not been a regular reader/participant on general-incubator, dev-community, and legal-discuss I would have been even more unprepared (though unlikely to have stood up in that case). It helps that I have the personal time to dig into matters. It is fortunate that I have some experience from outside of the ASF and non-open-source work. Although the ASF way is unique, I resonate with it. </orcmid> > That Chair-elect will retire in September, 2016. OK, this is very useful for proper planning. > 2015-08-23 Jan Iverson retired Iversen! <orcnote> Yes, thank you. I trust that I am getting better. </orcnote> > The complete PMC membership history is available at > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/pmc/project-state/2015-09-08-PMC-MembershipStatus.pdf This is an excellent document. I've checked it and indeed this one is much better and (as soon as you have the privileges for doing so, which should be a matter of days now, Board Meeting is next week) http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#openoffice-pmc should definitely be aligned to it. Your file has better information. > ACTION PLAN > Collect and maintain materials on everything that involves a Chair There is nothing special for OpenOffice in this respect. So adding questions/answers to http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html will suffice (but that page is already very comprehensive). <orcmid> I am thinking about all the matters that are known tacitly but not necessarily to a newcomer. There is also a small matter of prerequisite knowledge, such as slogin to people.apache.org and running $ modify_committee.pl openoffice --rm=whoseit to a duffer such as myself. </orcmid> > September 2016 PMC have at least three able and available candidates for > recommendation as new Chair As for having 3 people who would have the minimal knowledge to act as Chair, I think we already have them, and PMC involvement in Chair duties will be enough. I don't see the need to have 3 or more candidates (i.e., it is important to have people with the right knowledge, it is not important that all of them run for election): it might happen that, implicitly or explicitly, the viable candidates find consensus on one of them. <orcmid> I agree completely, although capacity and willingness matter too. My benchmark is how the Incubator PMC last changed Chairs. As far as I can tell they have a deep bench, and with a short discussion among the willing on the general list, there was consensus and, so far as I know, a [VOTE] was not needed. It that is achieved in 2016, I'll declare victory [;<). </orcmid> Regards, Andrea. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org