If a member can not collect for the hole project, I think the ASF should
do. That would be the simplest solution.
Can we ask the ASF what they think? Are they against a simple OpenOffice
development specific fund?
After all this is a end user product, not some IT component.

Maybe we think and speculate to much, and should talk with the ASF first,
asking them for help.

After all the donation text does not sound like ASF is against something
like this.
And they have seen what it means if no core team is availabe.

I guess they are open for ideas.

Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> schrieb am Di., 17. Jan. 2017, 11:44:

> Hello,
>
> > From: Raphael Bircher [mailto:rbircherapa...@gmail.com]
>
>
> > > Team OpenOffice was such a project. The participants were mainly
> > > experienced OpenOffice developers from SUN Microsystems.
> > I think, the real problem there was this text
> > http://www.opensourceforbusiness.info/openoffice-org-droht-das-aus/
>
> Yes you are absolutely right.
>
> But I do not see any great difference to my links.
>
>
> > The only restriction the ASF have is, that you can not
> > collect money in
> > the name of a project as a third party.
>
> This is not the whole truth. Also as an Apache member, I can not collect
> donations
> for Apache OpenOffice and this is a very real problem, because almost
> nobody of
> the OO used for Apache generally donate, for AOO concretely many would
> donate.
>
> > And Apache itself
> > does not found
> > defelopment.
>
> And that's imho bad. Where would the problem be if the users voluntarily
> donated
> and OO with these donations further developed?
>
> I can not see a reasonable reason why I, as a project member, are forced
> to act
> separately when it comes to donations instead of within the project itself.
> It would be better for me to act within the project, because any activity
> outside
> weakens, indirectly, the project as such.
>
> > But you can collect money for Features or major bugfixes as a
> > third party.
>
> Yes we can. But I believe that this is a fragmentation of the forces and
> would
> rather be done within the project.
>
>
> Greetings,
> Jörg
>
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