Am 19.04.2017 um 20:52 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 19.04.2017 um 11:26 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Thank you!
>>
>> But as I understand it, the SVN tag is done after the (last) RC is
>> promoted to be final. (That is the point where we know the Revision to
>> checkout). So it should be further down in the documentation.
>
> ah, yes, please see my answer to Andrea's mail.
>
>> A little story:
>>
>> Until recently "heise Download" [1] offered only AOO 4.1.2.
>> Andrea did the SVN tag on Saturday, 8. April. On Monday, 10. April heise
>> updated their page to AOO 4.1.3.
>> So I think, they monitor the tags either on GitHub or SVN to see if a
>> new version is available.
>>
>> [1] https://www.heise.de/download/product/openoffice-9375
>
> Then I really hope they have learned from this error. Sure, Apache
> software is in the very most cases the source code itself and not the
> binaries - when there are any at all. But for OpenOffice it's
> different. They should know us long enough to know this difference.
>
> PS:
> It's never forbidden to ask for facts. ;-)

Heise has been a good source for information... 20 years ago...
Now they are not relevant anymore.

Matthias

>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> Am 17.04.2017 um 16:18 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 10.04.2017 um 20:38 schrieb Marcus:
>>>> Thanks for this. My intention was not to get answers to the questions.
>>>> They were more ment as rough ideas for what could be added to the cook
>>>> book. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> However, I'll take them for addition, but not before Easter.
>>>
>>> I've added the topics now to the cook book [1] and incorporated them
>>> into the "Initiating a Release" section. After looking twice they seem
>>> to fit very well there.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release
>>>
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 08.04.2017 um 10:28 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>> On 07/04/2017 Marcus wrote:
>>>>>> Am 06.04.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
>>>>>>> If it needs to be done early, put it early in the document.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tagging is not to be done early. We tag retroactively, once a RC is
>>>>> approved.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't care about the Github mirror very much, since it is
>>>>> unofficial,
>>>>> poorly maintained, it shows wrong numbers and it even stopped working
>>>>> for many months last year. That said, the issue Matthias raised
>>>>> affect
>>>>> SVN too, so it is still relevant:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/tags/
>>>>>
>>>>> Also note: Github "releases" based on tags are not the same as our
>>>>> official releases; it's the same source code of course, but there are
>>>>> minor packaging details. So the Github releases in themselves
>>>>> (like the
>>>>> Github repository overall) have no value. Ask me to expand if this is
>>>>> unclear.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's create a new section like
>>>>>> "Build Preparations" and put the following stuff (and more, of
>>>>>> course)
>>>>>> there:
>>>>>> - How to create new SVN tag?
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, this happens retroactively, when a specific RC is voted. At
>>>>> that
>>>>> point, you simply SVN copy the branch to the tag.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you do this?
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Double-check what version was built (for 4.1.3 it's Rev. 1761381,
>>>>> you
>>>>> find it even in the About Box); of course, if this happens during the
>>>>> release process, the Release Manager knows it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Find the relevant branch in
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/ (in this case it's
>>>>> AOO413 and revision number is indeed 1761381) and check it is aligned
>>>>> (it is, since the two revisions match).
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. SVN copy the branch to the tag. You can do it locally but it's
>>>>> much
>>>>> more efficient to do it remotely. So, from anywhere on a machine with
>>>>> SVN access, just run:
>>>>>
>>>>> $ svn copy
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/AOO413
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/tags/AOO413 -m "AOO
>>>>> revision
>>>>> 1761381 from branch AOO413 was voted to be released as Apache
>>>>> OpenOffice
>>>>> 4.1.3 in October 2016"
>>>>>
>>>>> Committed revision 1790662.
>>>>>
>>>>> This results in the new tag appearing at
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/tags/ (while at it I fixed
>>>>> the
>>>>> missing 4.1.3 tag, so I did run the command above).
>>>>>
>>>>>> - How to check out code?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just "svn checkout" the relevant branch. Starting with 4.1.3 we have
>>>>> been using dedicated branches, so naming is now obvious (we had been
>>>>> reusing branches in precedence, like AOO410 was used for 4.1.0, 4.1.1
>>>>> and 4.1.2). Branches are listed at
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/branches/
>>>>>
>>>>> So:
>>>>>
>>>>> $ svn checkout
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/AOO413
>>>>>
>>>>>> - How to do a build with release options?
>>>>>
>>>>> Use the scripts at
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/build-scripts/
>>>>>
>>>>> The 4.1.2 scripts are correct, for 4.1.3 it is unreliable since
>>>>> people
>>>>> uploaded there scripts that were not used for building. See
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/96b7085351f7ab7975ac56c5bc7c42852b8a888da53e0a67864d3396@%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> - Where/How to upload pre-build releases?
>>>>>
>>>>> When they are RCs, they belong in the dev area. See
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/05d175d207b2bdc1ed83c8c4884630e91663a953daf12fe8612e98c5@%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
>>>>>
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