> On Nov 21, 2019, at 4:11 AM, Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> wrote:
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:51 PM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back
>> in our PMC and developer circle)
>
>> At the Foundation we expect that everyone working on a
>> project are doing so as individuals and any merit attained is
>> as an individual. [1] In the initial formation of a project
>> at The ASF the original PMC and Committers is often
>> determined in part by those entities who are bringing the
>> donation to the Foundation. Incubation is about helping
>> project communities to work in the “Apache Way”. [2]
>> OpenOffice.org’s proposal was unique in that the Initial
>> Committer list was made open for all those who were
>> interested. I signed up as interested as did some other
>> members of the Apache POI PMC (we were interested in MSFT
>> document compatibility). I took it upon myself to help with
>> Infrastructure like the websites, confluence wikis, and domain names.
>
> Absolutely clear for me and absolutely no problem for me!
>
> I had already made explicit reference to the ASF rules, and of course the
> usual procedures also belong to them for me.
>
>>> For me, and this may be my personal opinion, one must not
>> put good agreement above success - you have to find a balance
>> between both things.
>>>
>>>> The influence of enterprises were drastic in the
>>>> moment they stopped supporting us.
>>>
>>> Exactly, and why are no consequences drawn? The problem was
>> not that the company stopped its support, but that one
>> company was doing it at absolutely the wrong time and under
>> the wrong circumstances.
>>
>> When IBM withdrew support it did not mean that PMC Members
>> who were employed by IBM stopped contributing. They stopped
>> as individuals slowly over time.
>>
>> We had one PMC Chair who seriously started a discussion about
>> shutting down the project.
>
> Thank you for this (imho) very important info. Not good that the community
> was not informed about it, but this info was apparently only known internally.
It was informed and the discussion was started on September 1, 2016. [1]
I am proud of the community’s progress since then.
Regards,
Dave
[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6d3bb86f8abc1ae88f3aa3aa08c65721f71a951c07a967b8d288ee3a@%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
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>
>
> greetings,
> Jörg
>
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