On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 17:22:12 +0100
Peter Kovacs <pe...@apache.org> wrote:

> My personal opinion in this matter is that it does not matter what
> others do. All that counts is that ODF 1.3 is out.
> 
> If others want to join the party everyone is welcome. If they do not
> want to that is fine, too.
> 
> I am personal very happy that the TDF has managed to organize this. And
> I am excited to work on this.
> 
> 
> So I would like to focus on the Todos what we need to do in order to get
> this done.
> 
> My fist Ideas would be:
> 
> # compare 1.3with 1.2 or see if we get any other compares of changes.
> 
> # Then we need to check what is covered by the 1.2 extended implementation.
> 
> # 3 We need to make a plan what is to implement for 1.3 and make a
> tracking list of features and tests to implement.
> 
> 
> Any more Ideas?
> 
> 
> All the Best
> 
> Peter

Is there a document from Oasis giving a synopsis of the changes from 1.2 to 
1.3?  This would give an  idea of how much work was involved in the transition 
from 1.2.

Rory 


> 
> On 09.02.20 12:28, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
> > Hello, 
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org] 
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 11:51 AM
> >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: New Challange ODF 1.3 is out
> >>
> >> Hi Peter, all
> >>
> >>> Just a heads up. On FOSDEM I learned that TDF managed to 
> >> raise money and
> >>> do the work for ODF v 1.3.
> >> I believe this is a quite relevant announcement!
> >>
> >> If ODF 1.3 is only used by a single Office suite then it will 
> >> no longer be "software independent" which IMHO defeats the 
> >> purpose of an Open Document format...
> >> On the other hand given that ODF 1.3 is currently not an ISO 
> >> standard, Microsoft will not care about it until it is (in 
> >> fact they are making sure that ODF is not used at all)
> >>
> >> This will also isolate AOO since Open Documents will only 
> >> travel in one direction without feature loss (much like what 
> >> happens now with Microsoft's XML formats)
> > You described it very well.
> >
> > I myself have been following the development of ODF from the very beginning 
> > and I have to underline what you write, or rather I have to take a critical 
> > look at the approach of the TDF, because:
> >
> > In terms of a free, uniform format for office documents and the declared 
> > intention to formulate this standard as an ISO standard, it is regularly 
> > counterproductive for LO to deviate from this and implement OASIS standard.
> >
> > We all know what to think about MS in general ... but ... the approach of 
> > MS to ODF to implement the ISO standard is an understandable and reasonable 
> > decision.
> >
> > I make this assessment for the following reason:
> > if it wasn't important that ODF was defined as an ISO standard, you could 
> > have stuck with the OASIS standard from the beginning.
> >
> >
> >> Maybe it is in OASIS' interest (and even TDF's?) that other 
> >> software adopts ODF 1.3 and that they could/should provide 
> >> some support/developer time?
> > Probably this is a pragmatically correct question and we have no real 
> > possibility to behave better.
> >
> > However, we should keep in mind that the behaviour of the TDF is not 
> > optimal as far as the interests of the sum of all users are concerned.
> > It is likely that MS is playing a similar game with OOXML, but the FOSS 
> > community should not see this as an example or excuse for their own actions.
> >
> >
> >
> > greetings,
> > Jörg
> >
> >
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