> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:49 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Boring issue: Opening ODF document from 
> LibreOffice 7 displays error
> 
> Hi Bidouille,
> 
> Am 08.11.20 um 17:25 schrieb Bidouille:
> > Hello dev team,
> >
> >
> > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128412
> >
> > LibreOffice 7 use ODF 1.3 (experimental) for its documents.
> > Unable to open it without an error.

@Bidouille:
Strictly speaking, there is only a reference to a new program version, no error.

Do you have concrete test documents, which show problems and which you can make 
publicly available for testing? 

> > This is a painful for end-users.

@Bidouille:
Would it be better to open the document without any comment and risk that the 
document is not displayed correctly?
This is a very real question, because this corresponds to the program behavior 
with e.g. doc or docx.

> What is your proposal?

at short term:
If the predominant opinion is that the, years of practice with OOXML or the MS 
binary formats is less "painful", then you should simply turn off the program 
update warning.

medium term:
we would first have to clarify how big the problems are in practice and 
therefore the predictable effort for their elimination. This clarification 
could be done by people involved with OASIS (i _believe_ there are also people 
from us there) or by creating test files and evaluating them.

long-term:
it does not help us (AOO) directly, but in the interest of the users, all 
parties involved should get together to implement ODF in free software and 
agree to implement ISO standards permanently, at least as a default.
Already in the dispute with Microsoft, the users were the ones who suffered, 
and now the same situation exists within the FOSS community - this is not good.


I have now only once test converted about 20 existing odt files (typical 
business letters) in LO 7.0.1 to the 1.3 (extended) ODF and could not find any 
concrete problems when opening them in AOO 4.1.7.
This does not mean that there are none, but it is assumed that they will not be 
massive.


In general, these format problems are as difficult to solve as the problems 
regarding OOXML, because we lack manpower. 



Jörg





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