Hi Dave,

Am 31.12.20 um 01:28 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Marcus,
>>
>>> Am 31.12.20 um 00:46 schrieb Marcus:
>>> As I haven't seen any veto-like negative statement the change is now
>>> online.
>>>
>>> However, any changes are still possible.
>> I would propose that we add some additional text for Windows and macOS.
>> It could be done similar to Linux (DEB vs. RPM). Maybe we could make the
>> color a bit more visible?
>>
>> This would allow us to tell people that the Windows 32-bit version is
>> also suitable for Windows 64-bit and that the macOS version >= 10.7 also
>> runs with macOS Big Sur on Apple M1 chips.
> As discussed elsewhere we should revisit 
> https://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html

Yes, that page needs some updates...
But that's something different than I proposed.

>
> I’ll take a look next year.

Thanks!

I will also be "offline" for the next two days, see you in 2021! ;-)

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
>> Matthias
>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 30.12.20 um 00:18 schrieb Marcus:
>>>> Am 29.12.20 um 20:05 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Czesław Wolański
>>>>>> <czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suggest we offer something clearer and more direct. I’m not sure
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>> that is.
>>>>>>> Perhaps we need a compatible java page to point Windows, macOS,
>>>>>>> and Linux
>>>>>> users
>>>>>>> to acceptable versions.
>>>>>>> Maybe we have such a page we can better highlight from the
>>>>>>> Download page?
>>>>>> Link on the download page "Java and Apache OpenOffice"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Page with sections:
>>>>>> -  "Why Do I Need Java to Use Apache OpenOffice?",
>>>>>> -  "Which Java Version Do I Need to Use Apache OpenOffice?"
>>>>>> -  "Where Can I Get Java?".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that a good starting point?
>>>>> I think so. That page could use a major edit. We don’t need to
>>>>> discuss legacy releases and the links need to be more direct.
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>>> For Oracle looks best: https://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
>>>>> <https://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp>
>>>>>
>>>>> And instead of OpenJDK we should point to AdoptOpenJDK:
>>>>> https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html
>>>>> <https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like we could even add a button to the download page that
>>>>> might pick out the proper adoptopenjdk.
>>>> Even this is possible. But it takes time as the download style and
>>>> JavaScript magic needs to be extended.
>>>>
>>>> Until then the simple "Windows 32-bit (x86) (EXE)" drop-down-item is
>>>> a good and clear statement to separate from 64-bit.
>>>>
>>>> I can also add a 64-bit item with a hint text that AOO 32-bit will
>>>> run also on Windows 64-bit and I can also add a Java hint.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Am Di., 29. Dez. 2020 um 19:02 Uhr schrieb Dave Fisher
>>>>>> <w...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 9:47 AM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 18:31:23 +0100
>>>>>>>> Peter Kovacs <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 29.12.20 18:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 8:39 AM, Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Bidouille [mailto:ooofo...@free.fr]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 3:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Proposed change for download page
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I don't see the need until we have a real x64
>>>>>>>>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>> Don't you care if users can't find their way around and therefore
>>>>>>> stop using AOO?
>>>>>>>>>>> That was exactly the result of the thread that prompted me to
>>>>>>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>> a small correction on the download page.
>>>>>>>>>>> The thread is unfortunately in German, but here is the link:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.openoffice.info/viewtopic.php?p=293070#p293070
>>>>>>>>>> You should have started your discussion with this context.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is better to discuss the actual problem which is that
>>>>>>>>>> Windows users
>>>>>>> of AOO don’t know that they require a 32 bit Java than it is to
>>>>>>> suggest a
>>>>>>> minor fix to the download page.
>>>>>>>>> Java 32 bit is part of the release notes.
>>>>>>>> Which, experience on en-Forum indicates, no average user ever reads!
>>>>>>> Does your average Windows user know the difference between X86 and
>>>>>>> X64?!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suggest we offer something clearer and more direct. I’m not sure
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> that is. Perhaps we need a compatible java page to point Windows,
>>>>>>> macOS,
>>>>>>> and Linux users to acceptable versions. Maybe we have such a page
>>>>>>> we can
>>>>>>> better highlight from the Download page?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What advice does the en-Forum offer?
>>>
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