Hi Jim,

Am 11.11.21 um 12:59 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>
>> On Nov 10, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Am 10.11.21 um 19:30 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> We could, but they are worse at releases than we are :-P
>> A problem that needs to be fixed... ;-)
>>
>> BTW: I think you reverted one of my commits?
> Yikes! I must have picked the wrong hash.

I just re-applied it...

>
>>>> On Nov 10, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 10.11.21 um 19:19 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>> To be honest, I think we are *stuck* with OpenSSL 1.0.2 until Serf is 
>>>>> upgraded to support 1.1
>>>> Serf is an Apache project isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> Should we ask for collaboration?
>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Matthias Seidel 
>>>>>> <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 10.11.21 um 18:05 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>>>> Ugg ugg and double ugg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We seem to be stuck in a chicken-and-egg situation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do we *really* need OpenSSL 1.1? Because even the latest release of 
>>>>>>> serf doesn't really support that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the issue w/ using OpenSSL 1.0.2 that is driving us to OpenSSL 
>>>>>>> 1.1?
>>>>>> The main problem is that Let's Encrypt root certificates expired at the
>>>>>> end of October and OpenSSL 1.0.2 has problems with the new ones:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2021/09/13/LetsEncryptRootCertExpire/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For whatever reason it still works on Windows, but AOO on Linux and
>>>>>> macOS cannot connect to our Update Feed and the extensions site anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Workaround 3 (mentioned in the article) would be a possibility to fix
>>>>>> that on the server side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS: OpenSSL is universally, IMO, becoming a major PITA. I'm all for 
>>>>>>> upgrades and keeping things fresh, but it seems like it is moving way 
>>>>>>> too fast for its consumers.
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