Daniel Carrera wrote:

> Someone just informed me off-list that this email could be taken the 
> wrong way. I'd like to clarify that what I mean to say is "let's not 
> dwell on this". Personally, I don't think that a fork would be 
> successful, but what I was trying to say is that we shouldn't make our 
> lives difficult by dwelling about what RMS might have in mind. Just let 
> him do whatever. This doesn't have to be a big deal if we don't make it one.

I also don't believe in the success of such a fork - and I don't see the
point in it.

They would be better off just rewriting the stuff that depends on Java
and contribute it to the main code base. If their code had the same
quality than the existing one it could replace the Java code that
obviously bothers them. And I'm sure that developers capable of
maintaining a complete fork should be able to deliver the necessary
quality, and after that they don't need to maintain the whole code base,
only "their" parts (but maybe even not all of it).

If these contributions where rejected they still could create a fork
using it. If people don't consider a contribution first I think they
have other reasons for the fork and the Java thing is only an excuse.
Maybe it's the missing intention or ability to support platform
independent development (many free developers only care for Linux, and
many "free" developers only for their special breed)? Maybe it's the
JCA? But YMMV, it's only my personal opinion.

As repeatedly mentioned on several mailing lists, Java implementations
in OOo wheren't carried out in Java "just because" - usually Java was
either the easiest or the cheapest way or there have been other good
reasons for the developers. Believe it or not, it's easier to find god
Java developers than to find good C++ developers, especially for a
platform independent application as OOo.

If other developers helped us here we could remove more and more Java code!

Of course the way done by Caolon (gcj) should be sufficient also.

Best regards,
Mathias

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Mathias Bauer - OpenOffice.org Application Framework Project Lead
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