Hi Mathias,

>>>Good examples: MediaDescriptor and EmbeddedObjectContainer in comphelper.
>>Are you volunteering to introduce those two helper? :)
> 
> No.

What a pity.

> Meanwhile I think we should better have some UNO services replacing
> the helper classes. Wrapper classes for UNO interfaces or services
> mostly indicate that the API is too cumbersome and a more user friendly
> one is needed.

You seem to implicitly assume that the helpers are mostly to workaround
combersome UNO APIs. Like Christoph's assumption that 95% of them are
useless and can be removed, I question this. IMO, there are enough which
ease implementing UNO components, or which ease using them on a level
where introducing a dedicated API does not make sense for several reasons.

We can verify or falsify those assumptions only if somebody has a look
at every single of the helpers. I had the hope that we can do this
together, by having all of us, with our combined experience, a look at them.

So, what's on the list so far as desired outcome:
- more developers are aware of useful helper implementations
- we can discuss existing helpers and
  - identify and replace obsolete helpers
  - identify helpers which just work around missing UNO API
- we can identify helpers which with are mature and useful enough to
  become part of the SDK

None of those items can be done by a single person, IMO.

Ciao
Frank

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