Hi,

Michael Schmidt a écrit :
> On 7/30/07, jonathon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> integrated as Outlook and Microsoft Office are.
>>
>>     
>
> outlook *is* a component of office.
>
> Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
>   
>> Hope it helps,
>>     
>
> ok. but let me ask: helps whom? helps what? for which goal?
>
> - helping OOo to get the missing emailclient?
>   
presumably yes.

> - helping persons, by saing not: good cow coder, bad cow managerial?
>   

???
> - helping TB to stay within Mozilla?
> - helping OOo not need to give the handshake, by waiting the TB Coders do it?
>   

Sorry I am afraid I don't understand what you're saying here.

>   
>> wish TB to join the OpenOffice.org project, they simply
>> can request it.
>>     
>
> It has been requested on the mailinglist: OOo needs an Email Client
> and Instant Messenger. Ideally both under one hood/gui
>   
> so please decide, and if the core developers are not joining, then it
> is a fork-partnership.
>   


a fork by whom?

> What is the difference, by Scott requesting a Mailclient in OOo or
> anyone else in OOo?
> OOo Dev should know the history of the lack of an Emailclient, so I
> wounder why there is no initiative now.
>   


Okay. Perhaps you misread my former statements: There is right now, a
project aiming at the integration of Thunderbird and Lightning inside
OOo. It started without Thunderbird being spun off from Mozilla.

> ;-)
>
> This is, why I wrote yesterday to the HR department of SUN, to start
> an initiative to employ them.
>   

Sorry. I am not a Sun employee and besides, who are you write to Sun HR?
Do you work with Scott? Did he tell you to do it?


> And I ask the OOo managerials to send feedback on that here on the
> list, or to decide, if in this critical situation of the death of the
> bird a fork-partnership is planned and implemented for OOo.
>   

I suggest you wait until the answer of the "OOo Managerials" then. :-)

> We should set with the community a timeline, in which the managerials
> of OOo declare, if or what they have done to find a solution, and with
> which result.
>
> Things look not brighter, the more nights you sleep.
> So I hope, the decision is soon done (and not "far-fetched") and told
> to the community:
> If or if not OOo get´s an open source Email-Cient (which could be
> based on TB code or on core-dev-ls knowledge).
>
> Don´t get me wrong, OOo can decide it anytime to add email or
> serverless IM functionalities to OpenOffice, but for the case of
> Thunderbird, the time is nowerdays.
>
> Kind regards Michael.
>
> PS: Sun uses a lot of money to be neck to neck with Microsoft. Use
> this money for TB.
> It is really not a question to make a fork or a friendly-overtake of
> TB. It fits the strategy. Outlook is Office ! so don´t get in identity
> turbulence with the birds flying around your head, sun! So let´s wait
> for the feedback of the headquarter.
>   

You seem to imply that Sun decides everything in OOo, or that OOo is
only made of Sun. That's quite a wrong assumption. Sun is certainly a
very important member of our community, but it's far to be the only one.
And besides, Thunderbird can join the project without the need of a
corporate agreement of Sun.

Best,
Charles.

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