I think the problem that I have does not arise from any bug in OOo, but from 
stupid users, that I have to handle. 
First of all I only have .doc files. In MS Word, you can insert field 
functions, like author, but the value of this
field function stays empty until you do some update operation (by selecting 
"update" from a menu), where the value is inserted then. This is also the same 
with page numbers.  
The users save the document, without updating the field functions. When they 
are again opened with MS Word, the field functions to do get updated 
automatically. So I have an empty field function "author" and a wrong page 
numbers information, because of not updating it by the user. 

When I then open the document using OOo, the author and page information field 
functions get updated and the correct information is inserted. That would 
actually be what I expect from a program. But in my special case this is not 
wanted, because it means some changes have been done on the original document. 

The problem with the date information fields, is that they have a different 
format (e.g. adding a field for seconds, which is not visible in MS Word). This 
would not be so bad, if the above mentioned problem could be solved. 

To summarize I do not think that it is a bug, or change request on OOo, but on 
MS Word, because of not automatically updating the field function, with correct 
information. The users are just used to MS Word and are not going to 
understand, that OOo actually behaves correctly. 

My approach than was to disable the updating field functions, so that OOo 
behaves the same as MS Word. But as I found out until now, disabling it is not 
possible. 

Greetings
Robert
 

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Von: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Joe Smith
Gesendet: Montag, 13. August 2007 16:12
An: [email protected]
Betreff: [dev] Re: Disable automatic field updating

Thullner, Robert wrote:
> Hello
>  
> I have a problem with fields in OOo. I use OpenOffice to convert MS Word
> files to PDF format. The word files contain field functions(lastSaved,
> lastPrinted, savedBy, PageNumbers...). These field functions are
> automatically updated when I open the MS Word files with OOo. ...

Sorry, but what do you mean by "updated"? Are they given new values?

If so, it seems to be specific to the .doc import because it does not 
happen with an ODF document. I can open an ODF document sent to me by 
someone else, save it (no edits) as a different name, and all those 
fields stay the same.

Maybe you're talking about the values passed on to the PDF file? All I 
can see there is the "Author" field, which again was not changed. The 
'Created' time has changed, but I dare say that's ambiguous at best in 
that situation.

Also, which one of those fields should get a new value on import? None 
that I can see. Simply reading the file should not change any of those 
values.

Unless I've missed something obvious (always a good possibility), this 
isn't a ux issue, it's just a bug.

Oh, waaait a minute, I see now. Those are not static fields, they're 
actually formula fields using functions that return the document info, 
which has now changed.

I still say it's a bug--the import operation should not change the 
values returned by those functions and the result should be the same as 
it was in the original document.

Are the correct values available from the .doc file? If so, then that's 
what the functions should produce when they're updated.

<Joe


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