Michael Meeks schrieb:

>> But a clarification of the implications of the JCA wasn't what Michael
>> Meeks asked for (and BTW also nobody else until now). He pointed at
>> Sun for asking for a JCA without mentioning that his company is doing
>> exactly the same in other projects. I felt the need to correct that
>> false impression.
> 
>       As you know from my blog, I've been extremely up-front about this (much
> as, incidentally, I disapprove of & would improve Novell's copyright 
> assignment
> practices around evolution & mono):
Your blog is completely irrelevant here. If you are putting your
accusations on the mailing list you will be judged by what you write
here. It's quite possible that people reading here never came across
your blog. So there *was* a false impression. And I welcome that you
have helped to correct it after my intervention.

My point is that the people leading Mono or many other projects know
that a copyright assignment is necessary (at least for projects that
have some relevance outside of the company that created it) and so they
ask for it. The same does Sun for OOo. This is not "good" or "bad" -
it's just vital for the project's future.

Your argument about your personal feelings wrt. to the copyright
assignment practice at Novell is not relevant. It's easy to argue
against them because it's clear that this won't change anything. The
people leading the projects know that the copyright assignment is
necessary for them, regardless of what Michael Meeks, Mathias Bauer or
anybody else might think.

I also don't believe that you will fight against the CA in Novell's
projects with the same dilligence, noise and press hype as you do in
case of OOo but of course I also don't expect that. ;-)

Perhaps now we can head for something completely different. I'm still
hoping that we can reestablish the good relationship we once had and
that I enjoyed a lot. You have made your point: you don't like the SCA.
We all know it now. That's enough.

Ciao,
Mathias

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Mathias Bauer (mba) - Project Lead OpenOffice.org Writer
OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
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