Andrew Douglas Pitonyak escreveu:
> 
> 
> M. Peterson wrote:
>> Hello Andrew,
>> thanks for the notice, will answer it. Does this mean as well you are
>> interested in a support?
> 
> I lack the time to commit to another project.
> 
>> The idea is to send documents or other things over the messenger
>> secure to other co-workers. so the messenger will find a lot of
>> moements were it merge in and third of course it is an own component,
>> that means that bureau and office people use it to communicate.
> 
> So one usage is to allow me to send a document to another user from
> within OOo?
> 
>> See.. OOo really needs this messenter, as with just files no business
>> and no office is made.
>> you need to communicate, that is even more important than to make
>> excel sheets or project plans.. This messenger offers no need to
>> register anywhere, and there is no need for any central server
>> maintenance. so this has advantages in spite of the other protocols.
> 
> I am curious how the connection is made if an external server is not
> used. My primary computer, for example, has an IP address that is not
> reachable from the outside. I forward one port from the external
> firewall directly to my computer. With an external server involved,
> communication is easily established with my computer.
> 
> That said, I understand the advantage of not using an external server.
> 
>> You have a PGP key under any email?
> 
> I used to, but so few people with whom I communicated used it, that I
> stopped trying to use it. I have also not been able to successfully use
> security tokens to sign OOo documents either.
> 
>> just message the PGP key with OOo RetroMessenger. that is why it is
>> important to have it as a component in, one OOo release and all your
>> friends are on this messenger. It works as well though a firewall, so
>> you can use it at your employer.
>> To your Outlook question: We will provide in 2009 as well an Email
>> client. then we can discuss again, maybe it merges as well with the
>> messenger like in gmail and soon thunderbird. Ideas are open. but yes,
>> retromessenger can be installed alone or with OOo, same with outlook
>> and MS Office, that is why i think it should be no problem to put it
>> into the installer and not as an extension. Extension are just an
>> instiution to get an agreement with the community. But OOo needs an
>> instant messenger and that is why we need a go and lead from you.
> 
> In many ways, an extension is better than integration, because it can be
> updated on its own schedule and it is a lot easier to build. Far more
> people are able to build an extension than are able to build all of OOo
> so that they can work on specific functionality. This does not preclude
> APIs from being added to OOo for support, of course.
> 
> I have found a few bugs in the OOo code that I wanted to fix. I was
> never able to setup a complete build environment that worked. Instead, I
> posted the file and line number in a bug report and let someone else fix
> the bugs. Although I understand that things may have improved since I
> tried this a few years back, I never bothered to try again.
> 
> Finally, an extension, is not bound to the same extra rules for
> integration with OOo.
> 
>>
>> Please join the idea and so, what do you think can we do as a next
>> step to integrate more?
>> Regards Max
>>
>>
>>  
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     Michael wrote:
>>
>>         Furthermore we want that OOo components allow to send other
>>         users on the
>>         messeger OOo Component features.
>>         
>>
>>     I do not understand this statement. Do you mean ability to send a
>>     document to someone?
>>
>>     Is the vision that this will support one protocol, or many? At
>>     work, I communicate with other developers on the team using
>>     Jabber. I would not be likely to use a messenger that did not use
>>     what ever my favorite protocol of the moment (or the one dictated
>>     by my employer). I want to understand the scope of the project.
>>
>>     A frequent question that I see on the list is: Does OOo contain
>>     "outlook"? When I think of the email software and messenger
>>     software included with Windows, I notice that they work
>>     independently of their office product. In this case, independently
>>     means that I can use them without installing MS Office.
>>
>>     --     Andrew Pitonyak
>>     My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
>>     My Book: http://www.hentzenwerke.com/catalog/oome.htm
>>     Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
>>     See Also: http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/index.html
>>
>>
> 
It looks like Pidgin+ZeroConf (aka Bonjour), GoogleDocs' Chat and InkScape's
WhiteBoard (XMPP).

-- 
Marco de Freitas

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