Björn Michaelsen wrote (28-10-2009 16:52)
Am Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:04:45 +0100
schrieb Cor Nouws <[email protected]>:
bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - wrote (26-10-2009 12:59)
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:MainIndex

Taking profit from your discussion with Juergen, I would suggest as
main categories:
- Development of OpenOffice.org
- Development with OpenOffice.org
- Marketing
- NLC
- Project
- Wiki
Sounds good, but I think Documentation deserves a spot there too, as
most stuff on the Wiki is Documentation. If not, there at least needs
to be a Toplevel-Category "Using OpenOfffice.org" (as opposed to the
"Development"-Categories).

Sure - was forgotten that one ..

Few remarks:
- currently, Documentation is both main category and sub category of Project.
Yes, this is intentionally. Every subcategory of "Project" should be
something represented by real people. These are the owners of the pages
in "their" category and in "their" subcategories.
Documentation being on the toplevel of the MainIndex is because:
- Most of the Wiki _is_ Documentation
- They have a decent organization of subcategories

That is what I understand and see reflected now on the category page.

- currently Performance is both under Development and Project.
Intentionally, because it is an Office-wide Development Effort and not
limited to some modules. Same for API, Porting, ESC.

OK, if that does work.

- API, Extensions should be under "Development with OpenOffice.org"
Separating "Development of" and "Development with" sounds like a
sensible thing. However, we should really get rid of "Development"
then, as covers way to many topics (pretty much everything
not-Marketing and not-Enduser).

Then you must think of some new main categories?

- ODFToolkit maybe as main category (after all it is http://odftoolkit.org/ as very main ;-) )
True.

I found this:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:SOP
sorting out categories and it is seems really useful.

A few points from those:
- One should never create or modify a page so that it does not belong to
  a project. If one wants to not yet show a page in the Project
  Category one should use a subcategory for those.
  (for example: Category:Quality Assurance/Draft)
  Exceptions are the User:-Pages and their subpages which can be used as
  Sandboxes.
- The "Developemnt" and "Wiki" categories and their subcategories are
  supplemental as they do not attribute ownership to a project.
- new Categories should always be a subcategory of an existing category
  (and thus end up somewhere on the MainIndex)
- All projects should take a look at their subcategories and clean up
  if needed. NLC should consolidate on a naming scheme for
  subcategories (languages).
- Category pages should never redirect as it is really a maintenance
  hassle. If the Category has a "frontpage" just link to it from the
  category page.
- Never "black a page". Use {{delete}} instead. (I will mark the ca. 50
  blank pages we have in the wiki for deletion soon).

Great. To serve that, we are best helped with a clear structure, of which it is obvious right away how it works.
Therefore my enthusiasm for your work on this.

This:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:UncategorizedCategories
looks good.
This:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WantedCategories&limit=100
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:UncategorizedPages
not so much.

Indeed. (I see there is also something to learn and do for the people of the CC, working on the wiki ;-) )


Cor

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