Hello everybody,

Wolfgang has written
> and why ("an area is a closed way with some tag attached"
> simply doesn't cut it).
>
> Or, in case that was still not concrete enough: in Austria alone, there
> are
> currently on the order of 750 geometries that are perfectly valid in osm
> but
> not digestible by quite a few GIS-enabled databases

Well, just take it from a mathematical point of view. One can define any area 
by providing its border. A point is inside if and only if it is separated by 
the south pole by an odd number of borders. I you need a mathematical proof, 
I'll put one on the wiki.

So there is no need to bother the mappers with any "outer", "inner" tag, order 
on relation members or whatever. The only thing needed would be a tag to 
reverse the area to make areas possible that cover the south pole. The last 
thing I would think about is to bully the community with another bot that 
changes what a poorly designed application fails to read.

There are at the moment more than 44,000 valid areas in the planet data 
("multipoygon"s and administrative units). There are a lot of tools that can 
digest this data. The interpretation of this data would need neither a relevant 
amout of code nor computation time. Feel free to ask for sample code. So if a 
certain database or tool fails on mathematical facts, I would have doubts about 
that database resp. tool, not about OSM.

Cheers,
Roland

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