On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Mike Dupont wrote:

Ok Stefan, I am sorry that I have not read about all these things you
guys have been doing.
please tell me, how do you get all this data? Is there a way to
extract all the transit data from osm in an easy way? that would be a
good test for transiki to import this.

Most of our data goes into OpenStreetMap and does not come from OpenStreetMap. OpenStreetMap is primary used for geo-semantical stuff recovery.

In The Netherlands, by law, any transit provider has to offer their data to any national transit routing provider. Inventive as we are the government even defined a standard for that called 'BISON' they are focussing now on the european variant. In every respect both are bloated and the Dutch one is plain ugly. But like OSM, it works.

Level 1 is basically the static and positional data. The aditional levels include updates and realtime information exchange.


All this was done prior to the deployment of the Dutch National Databank for Public Transport data. Our insentive is basically to help define, and implement a reference infrastructure for this 'hub'. This reference might become the actual thing.


Train information is a sperate issue, currently there is a realtime system that manages that located at the governmental company that manages the complete traininfrastructure (opposed to the companies that drive the trains on them). The idea is to have their system as client to ours, and inject the data that can be subscribed to.

Because our system is primary targeted to The Netherlands and to data exchange, opposed to harvesting as much as you can eat, the documents are in dutch, but easy to translate. I wouldn't mind to send in a lot of Dutch content to your project. But please understand that timetables is something that is in the process of being phased out anyway... and routes are basically 'trivial' to get.


Stefan

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