On Oct 19, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Roland Olbricht <[email protected]> wrote:

> > This specific functionality seems like something we'd want directly
> > supported in the railsport, no? Or is it so expensive that it has to be
> > tiered out into its separate application?
>  

[…]

>  
> I think the core problem is that there are two different concepts of "main 
> API" around:
>  
> There is the lean approach, or technical point of view, geared towards 
> scalability: Obviously, we need a central instance for managing the id space, 
> and that place can also seralize all edits to the database. This has good 
> chances to scale, but means that anything beyond immediate editing support 
> has to go off the main API sooner or later when it turns out to be the 
> roadblocker at that time of scalability.
>  
> And there is some kind of "approval" point of view, or marketing point of 
> view, seeing tools with a .osm.org domain in some sense 
> approved/superior/preferred or whatever. This comes from our usual experience 
> with brands or large companies that differentiate "the inside" from "the 
> outside". It doesn't match neither the common sense nor the factual situation 
> around the project, think of JOSM (which is not on osm.org) or the Geofabrik 
> and CloudMade extracts and several others, but it is very straightforward.
>  
> I tend to prefer the first point of view, but I accept that the second point 
> of view is fairly often unchallenged told. From the first point of view, it 
> is pretty clear that a history stream belongs to a third party tool.

Not sure I buy into this dichotomy. Application level integration != user 
facing integration. Or in other words: it's thinkable to have features on 
openstreetmap.org that appear seamlessly integrated to the user but are powered 
from a separate tier - separate application or separate application on separate 
server. No?

>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Roland
>  
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