hi udo,

#2-#4 are ok for me.
+1 for #3

we have a plug-in concept (which is great) and we shouldn't start with
introducing exceptions. we can host such a plug-in for java 1.5 at
apache-extras and we can release it in an apache-extras maven
repository.

furthermore, most google code projects don't have a maven repository
and we would have source-code which isn't testable because the
ci-server wouldn't find the dependency and users have to check out the
external project and have to build it manually. moreover, if the
repository disappears, we also have a problem.

regards,
gerhard

2011/6/8, Udo Schnurpfeil <[email protected]>:
> I like a solution, when the same artifact (of app or lib) will work in
> both environments.
>
> Regards,
>
> Udo
>
>
> Am 08.06.11 13:28, schrieb Arne Limburg:
>> +1 for the Java-5-Webbeans-Plugin
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>> Von: Udo Schnurpfeil [[email protected]]
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Juni 2011 13:23
>> An: [email protected]
>> Betreff: Re: OWB with Java 1.5 and Servlet 2.4
>>
>> Hi Gerhard,
>>
>> I don't know what the problem is, with the direct dependency. I've
>> marked it as optional in the pom.xml. A Java 1.6 application will run
>> without changes (and not having googlecode in the jar). But I can
>> understand, that there are reasons on principal to have no dependencies
>> to other project.
>>
>> Did I understand you correctly in your first solution approach?
>> Compile the Sources of java.util.ServiceLoader with Java 1.5 and put it
>> into a single JAR File.
>> This might be also not very nice, as a general solution: OWB works with
>> Java 1.5, when you compile some JDK classes.
>>
>> Sadly I don't know the plugin mechanism of OWB, so I can't write an easy
>> patch for that solution.
>>
>> An other solution might be implementing a
>> org.apache.webbeans.util.ServiceLoader and using this instead of the
>> com.googlecode one. This might be the cleanest solution.
>>
>> So we have 4 possibilities:
>>     1) googlecode
>>     2) jdk 1.6 code self compiled in the project
>>     3) plugin
>>     4) writing own service-loader
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Udo
>>
>>
>> Am 08.06.11 11:25, schrieb Gerhard Petracek:
>>> hi udo,
>>>
>>> @OWB-582:
>>> using com.googlecode.* directly in owb is imo no good idea.
>>> since the service-loader isn't available in a java 1.5 environment,
>>> you can repackage the service-loader in your project. so we don't have
>>> to change owb itself - you just have an additional jar in your
>>> project. if there is any issue with such an approach, we could create
>>> an owb-plugin for it and you write your own plugin-implementation.
>>>
>>> @OWB-583:
>>> looks fine to me (just had a quick look).
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> gerhard
>>>
>>> 2011/6/8, Udo Schnurpfeil<[email protected]>:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to use OWB on WebSphere 6.1 (similar to Tomcat 5.5) which
>>>> requires Java 1.5 and supports Servlet API 2.4.
>>>> OWB needs Java 1.6 and Servlet API 2.5.
>>>>
>>>> Part 1: Java 1.6
>>>>
>>>> After a close look into the sources I see, there is one basic dependency
>>>> to Java 1.6: java.util.ServiceLoader
>>>> To solve this problem, I've added a utility class in my local copy and
>>>> delegate calls to ServiceLoader to this utility.
>>>>
>>>> The utility class itself calls ServiceLoader, if the class is available
>>>> (Java 1.6) or uses com.googlecode.bspi.ServiceLoader (Java 1.5).
>>>> So the application needs one new dependency (only in the case of Java
>>>> 1.5).
>>>>
>>>> I've also changed the maven-compiler-plugin to generate Java 1.5
>>>> compatible byte code.
>>>>
>>>> Jira: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OWB-582
>>>>
>>>> Part 2: Servet API 2.5
>>>>
>>>> Some classes uses the new function ServletContext.getContextPath() for
>>>> logging and giving a thread a useful name.
>>>>
>>>> Here, I also added a utility class, and call
>>>> servletContext.getServletContextName() in the case of Servlet API 2.4
>>>>
>>>> Jira: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OWB-583
>>>>
>>>> Conclusion:
>>>>
>>>> There are not many dependencies to the new APIs and there are simple
>>>> workarounds. With this changes (and a similar patch for the
>>>> ServiceLoader in CODI) I'm able to run OWB on WebSpere 6.1 and Tomcat
>>>> 5.5 with Java 1.5.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Udo
>>>>
>>>>
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