problem is that our plugin concept is currently based on 
java.util.ServiceLoader :)

This is somehow similar to David Jencks initial ConfigService problem I think.

LieGrue,
strub

--- On Wed, 6/8/11, Gerhard Petracek <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Gerhard Petracek <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: OWB with Java 1.5 and Servlet 2.4
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 1:05 PM
> hi udo,
> 
> #2-#4 are ok for me.
> +1 for #3
> 
> we have a plug-in concept (which is great) and we shouldn't
> start with
> introducing exceptions. we can host such a plug-in for java
> 1.5 at
> apache-extras and we can release it in an apache-extras
> maven
> repository.
> 
> furthermore, most google code projects don't have a maven
> repository
> and we would have source-code which isn't testable because
> the
> ci-server wouldn't find the dependency and users have to
> check out the
> external project and have to build it manually. moreover,
> if the
> repository disappears, we also have a problem.
> 
> regards,
> gerhard
> 
> 2011/6/8, Udo Schnurpfeil <[email protected]>:
> > I like a solution, when the same artifact (of app or
> lib) will work in
> > both environments.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Udo
> >
> >
> > Am 08.06.11 13:28, schrieb Arne Limburg:
> >> +1 for the Java-5-Webbeans-Plugin
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> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Juni 2011 13:23
> >> An: [email protected]
> >> Betreff: Re: OWB with Java 1.5 and Servlet 2.4
> >>
> >> Hi Gerhard,
> >>
> >> I don't know what the problem is, with the direct
> dependency. I've
> >> marked it as optional in the pom.xml. A Java 1.6
> application will run
> >> without changes (and not having googlecode in the
> jar). But I can
> >> understand, that there are reasons on principal to
> have no dependencies
> >> to other project.
> >>
> >> Did I understand you correctly in your first
> solution approach?
> >> Compile the Sources of java.util.ServiceLoader
> with Java 1.5 and put it
> >> into a single JAR File.
> >> This might be also not very nice, as a general
> solution: OWB works with
> >> Java 1.5, when you compile some JDK classes.
> >>
> >> Sadly I don't know the plugin mechanism of OWB, so
> I can't write an easy
> >> patch for that solution.
> >>
> >> An other solution might be implementing a
> >> org.apache.webbeans.util.ServiceLoader and using
> this instead of the
> >> com.googlecode one. This might be the cleanest
> solution.
> >>
> >> So we have 4 possibilities:
> >>     1) googlecode
> >>     2) jdk 1.6 code self
> compiled in the project
> >>     3) plugin
> >>     4) writing own
> service-loader
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Udo
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 08.06.11 11:25, schrieb Gerhard Petracek:
> >>> hi udo,
> >>>
> >>> @OWB-582:
> >>> using com.googlecode.* directly in owb is imo
> no good idea.
> >>> since the service-loader isn't available in a
> java 1.5 environment,
> >>> you can repackage the service-loader in your
> project. so we don't have
> >>> to change owb itself - you just have an
> additional jar in your
> >>> project. if there is any issue with such an
> approach, we could create
> >>> an owb-plugin for it and you write your own
> plugin-implementation.
> >>>
> >>> @OWB-583:
> >>> looks fine to me (just had a quick look).
> >>>
> >>> regards,
> >>> gerhard
> >>>
> >>> 2011/6/8, Udo Schnurpfeil<[email protected]>:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to use OWB on WebSphere 6.1
> (similar to Tomcat 5.5) which
> >>>> requires Java 1.5 and supports Servlet API
> 2.4.
> >>>> OWB needs Java 1.6 and Servlet API 2.5.
> >>>>
> >>>> Part 1: Java 1.6
> >>>>
> >>>> After a close look into the sources I see,
> there is one basic dependency
> >>>> to Java 1.6: java.util.ServiceLoader
> >>>> To solve this problem, I've added a
> utility class in my local copy and
> >>>> delegate calls to ServiceLoader to this
> utility.
> >>>>
> >>>> The utility class itself calls
> ServiceLoader, if the class is available
> >>>> (Java 1.6) or uses
> com.googlecode.bspi.ServiceLoader (Java 1.5).
> >>>> So the application needs one new
> dependency (only in the case of Java
> >>>> 1.5).
> >>>>
> >>>> I've also changed the
> maven-compiler-plugin to generate Java 1.5
> >>>> compatible byte code.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jira: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OWB-582
> >>>>
> >>>> Part 2: Servet API 2.5
> >>>>
> >>>> Some classes uses the new function
> ServletContext.getContextPath() for
> >>>> logging and giving a thread a useful
> name.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here, I also added a utility class, and
> call
> >>>> servletContext.getServletContextName() in
> the case of Servlet API 2.4
> >>>>
> >>>> Jira: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OWB-583
> >>>>
> >>>> Conclusion:
> >>>>
> >>>> There are not many dependencies to the new
> APIs and there are simple
> >>>> workarounds. With this changes (and a
> similar patch for the
> >>>> ServiceLoader in CODI) I'm able to run OWB
> on WebSpere 6.1 and Tomcat
> >>>> 5.5 with Java 1.5.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any suggestions?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Udo
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
> 
> 
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