Kirill,

I would think that if such a capability is introduced it should be
`optional` as depending on your query patterns it might make more sense to
sort on another column.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Kirill Safonov <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thanks Ryan,
>
> One more question please: as we’re going to store timestamped events in
> Parquet, would it be beneficial to write the files chronologically sorted?
> Namely, will the query for the certain time range over the time-sorted
> Parquet file be optimised so that irrelevant portion of data is skipped and
> no "full scan" is done?
>
> Kirill
>
> > On 14 Mar 2016, at 22:00, Ryan Blue <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Adding int64-delta should be weeks. We should also open a bug report for
> > that line in Spark. It should not fail if an annotation is unsupported.
> It
> > should ignore it.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Kirill Safonov <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for reply Ryan,
> >>
> >>> For 2, PLAIN/gzip is the best option for timestamps right now. The
> format
> >>> 2.0 encodings include a delta-integer encoding that we expect to work
> >> really well for timestamps, but that hasn't been committed for int64
> yet.
> >>
> >> Is there any ETA on when it can appear? Just the order e.g. weeks or
> >> months?
> >>
> >>> Also, it should be safe to store timestamps as int64 using the
> >> TIMESTAMP_MILLIS annotation.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately this is not the case for us as the Parquet complains with
> >> "Parquet type not yet supported" [1].
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Kirill
> >>
> >> [1]:
> >>
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/sql/core/src/main/scala/org/apache/spark/sql/execution/datasources/parquet/CatalystSchemaConverter.scala#L161
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ryan Blue [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 7:44 PM
> >> To: Parquet Dev
> >> Subject: Re: achieving better compression with Parquet
> >>
> >> Kirill,
> >>
> >> For 1, the reported size is just the data size. That doesn't include
> page
> >> headers, statistics, or dictionary pages. You can see the size of the
> >> dictionary pages in the dump output, which I would expect is where the
> >> majority of the difference is.
> >>
> >> For 2, PLAIN/gzip is the best option for timestamps right now. The
> format
> >> 2.0 encodings include a delta-integer encoding that we expect to work
> >> really well for timestamps, but that hasn't been committed for int64
> yet.
> >>
> >> Also, it should be safe to store timestamps as int64 using the
> >> TIMESTAMP_MILLIS annotation. That's just a way to keep track of what the
> >> values you write represent. When there isn't specific support for it,
> you
> >> should just get an int64. Using that annotation should give you the
> exact
> >> same behavior as not using it right now, but when you update to a
> version
> >> of Spark that supports it you should be able to get timestamps out of
> your
> >> existing data.
> >>
> >> rb
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Kirill Safonov <
> [email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks for the hint Ryan!
> >>>
> >>> I applied the tool to the file and I’ve got some more questions if you
> >>> don’t mind :-)
> >>>
> >>> 1) We’re using 64Mb page (row group) size so I would expect the sum of
> >>> all the values in “compressed size” field (which is {x} in
> >>> SZ:{x}/{y}/{z}
> >>> notation) to be around 64 Mb, but it’s near 48 Mb. Is this expected?
> >>> 2) One of the largest field is Unix timestamp (we may have lots of
> >>> timestamps for a single data record) which is written as plain int64
> >>> (we refrained from using OriginalType.TIMESTAMP_MILLIS as it seems to
> >>> be not yet supported by Spark). The tool says that this column is
> >>> stored with “ENC:PLAIN” encoding (which I suppose is GZipped
> >>> afterwards). Is this the most compact way to store timestamps or e.g.
> >>> giving a "OriginalType.TIMESTAMP_MILLIS” or other hint will make an
> >> improvement?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Kirill
> >>>
> >>>> On 07 Mar 2016, at 00:26, Ryan Blue <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Kirill,
> >>>>
> >>>> It's hard to say what the expected compression rate should be since
> >>> that's
> >>>> heavily data-dependent. Sounds like Parquet isn't doing too bad,
> >> though.
> >>>>
> >>>> For inspecting the files, check out parquet-tools [1]. That can dump
> >>>> the metadata from a file all the way down to the page level. The
> "meta"
> >>> command
> >>>> will print out each row group and column within those row groups,
> >>>> which should give you the info you're looking for.
> >>>>
> >>>> rb
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]:
> >>>>
> >>> http://search.maven.org/#artifactdetails%7Corg.apache.parquet%7Cparque
> >>> t-tools%7C1.8.1%7Cjar
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Kirill Safonov
> >>>> <[email protected]
> >>>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We’re evaluating Parquet as the high compression format for our
> >>>>> logs. We took some ~850Gb of TSV data (some columns are JSON) and
> >>>>> Parquet
> >>>>> (CompressionCodec.GZIP) gave us 6.8x compression whereas plain GZip
> >>> (with
> >>>>> Deflater.BEST_COMPRESSION) gave 4.9x (~1.4 times less) on the same
> >> data.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So the questions are:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) is this somewhat expected compression rate (compared to GZip)?
> >>>>> 2) As we specially crafted Parquet schema with maps and lists for
> >>> certain
> >>>>> fields, is there any tool to show the sizes of individual Parquet
> >>> columns
> >>>>> so we can find the biggest ones?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks in advance,
> >>>>> Kirill
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Ryan Blue
> >>>> Software Engineer
> >>>> Netflix
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ryan Blue
> >> Software Engineer
> >> Netflix
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ryan Blue
> > Software Engineer
> > Netflix
>
>

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