Hi Ryan, guys,

Let me please follow up on your last answer. Parquet file can be physically
stored as a single file (written via WriteSupport) or as a folder with a
collection of "parallel" files (generated by map-reduce or Spark
via ParquetOutputFormat).

Will a Spark task processing Parquet input benefit equally from min/max
stats for both cases (single file vs folder)?

Thanks,
 Kirill

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Ryan Blue <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Kirill,
>
> Yes, sorting data by the columns you intend to filter by will definitely
> help query performance because we keep min/max stats for each column chunk
> and page that are used to eliminate row groups when you are passing filters
> into Parquet.
>
> rb
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:07 AM, Kirill Safonov <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Antwins,
> >
> > Typical query for us is something like ‘Select events where [here come
> > attributes constraints] and timestamp > 2016-03-16 and timestamp <
> > 2016-03-17’, that’s why I’m asking if this query can benefit from
> timestamp
> > ordering.
> >
> > > On 16 Mar 2016, at 03:03, Antwnis <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Kirill,
> > >
> > > I would think that if such a capability is introduced it should be
> > > `optional` as depending on your query patterns it might make more sense
> > to
> > > sort on another column.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Kirill Safonov <
> > [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks Ryan,
> > >>
> > >> One more question please: as we’re going to store timestamped events
> in
> > >> Parquet, would it be beneficial to write the files chronologically
> > sorted?
> > >> Namely, will the query for the certain time range over the time-sorted
> > >> Parquet file be optimised so that irrelevant portion of data is
> skipped
> > and
> > >> no "full scan" is done?
> > >>
> > >> Kirill
> > >>
> > >>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 22:00, Ryan Blue <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Adding int64-delta should be weeks. We should also open a bug report
> > for
> > >>> that line in Spark. It should not fail if an annotation is
> unsupported.
> > >> It
> > >>> should ignore it.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Kirill Safonov <
> > >> [email protected]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Thanks for reply Ryan,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> For 2, PLAIN/gzip is the best option for timestamps right now. The
> > >> format
> > >>>>> 2.0 encodings include a delta-integer encoding that we expect to
> work
> > >>>> really well for timestamps, but that hasn't been committed for int64
> > >> yet.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Is there any ETA on when it can appear? Just the order e.g. weeks or
> > >>>> months?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Also, it should be safe to store timestamps as int64 using the
> > >>>> TIMESTAMP_MILLIS annotation.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Unfortunately this is not the case for us as the Parquet complains
> > with
> > >>>> "Parquet type not yet supported" [1].
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Kirill
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [1]:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> >
> https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/sql/core/src/main/scala/org/apache/spark/sql/execution/datasources/parquet/CatalystSchemaConverter.scala#L161
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: Ryan Blue [mailto:[email protected]]
> > >>>> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 7:44 PM
> > >>>> To: Parquet Dev
> > >>>> Subject: Re: achieving better compression with Parquet
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Kirill,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> For 1, the reported size is just the data size. That doesn't include
> > >> page
> > >>>> headers, statistics, or dictionary pages. You can see the size of
> the
> > >>>> dictionary pages in the dump output, which I would expect is where
> the
> > >>>> majority of the difference is.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> For 2, PLAIN/gzip is the best option for timestamps right now. The
> > >> format
> > >>>> 2.0 encodings include a delta-integer encoding that we expect to
> work
> > >>>> really well for timestamps, but that hasn't been committed for int64
> > >> yet.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Also, it should be safe to store timestamps as int64 using the
> > >>>> TIMESTAMP_MILLIS annotation. That's just a way to keep track of what
> > the
> > >>>> values you write represent. When there isn't specific support for
> it,
> > >> you
> > >>>> should just get an int64. Using that annotation should give you the
> > >> exact
> > >>>> same behavior as not using it right now, but when you update to a
> > >> version
> > >>>> of Spark that supports it you should be able to get timestamps out
> of
> > >> your
> > >>>> existing data.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rb
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Kirill Safonov <
> > >> [email protected]>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks for the hint Ryan!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I applied the tool to the file and I’ve got some more questions if
> > you
> > >>>>> don’t mind :-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 1) We’re using 64Mb page (row group) size so I would expect the sum
> > of
> > >>>>> all the values in “compressed size” field (which is {x} in
> > >>>>> SZ:{x}/{y}/{z}
> > >>>>> notation) to be around 64 Mb, but it’s near 48 Mb. Is this
> expected?
> > >>>>> 2) One of the largest field is Unix timestamp (we may have lots of
> > >>>>> timestamps for a single data record) which is written as plain
> int64
> > >>>>> (we refrained from using OriginalType.TIMESTAMP_MILLIS as it seems
> to
> > >>>>> be not yet supported by Spark). The tool says that this column is
> > >>>>> stored with “ENC:PLAIN” encoding (which I suppose is GZipped
> > >>>>> afterwards). Is this the most compact way to store timestamps or
> e.g.
> > >>>>> giving a "OriginalType.TIMESTAMP_MILLIS” or other hint will make an
> > >>>> improvement?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>> Kirill
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 07 Mar 2016, at 00:26, Ryan Blue <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi Kirill,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> It's hard to say what the expected compression rate should be
> since
> > >>>>> that's
> > >>>>>> heavily data-dependent. Sounds like Parquet isn't doing too bad,
> > >>>> though.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> For inspecting the files, check out parquet-tools [1]. That can
> dump
> > >>>>>> the metadata from a file all the way down to the page level. The
> > >> "meta"
> > >>>>> command
> > >>>>>> will print out each row group and column within those row groups,
> > >>>>>> which should give you the info you're looking for.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> rb
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [1]:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > http://search.maven.org/#artifactdetails%7Corg.apache.parquet%7Cparque
> > >>>>> t-tools%7C1.8.1%7Cjar
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Kirill Safonov
> > >>>>>> <[email protected]
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> We’re evaluating Parquet as the high compression format for our
> > >>>>>>> logs. We took some ~850Gb of TSV data (some columns are JSON) and
> > >>>>>>> Parquet
> > >>>>>>> (CompressionCodec.GZIP) gave us 6.8x compression whereas plain
> GZip
> > >>>>> (with
> > >>>>>>> Deflater.BEST_COMPRESSION) gave 4.9x (~1.4 times less) on the
> same
> > >>>> data.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> So the questions are:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 1) is this somewhat expected compression rate (compared to GZip)?
> > >>>>>>> 2) As we specially crafted Parquet schema with maps and lists for
> > >>>>> certain
> > >>>>>>> fields, is there any tool to show the sizes of individual Parquet
> > >>>>> columns
> > >>>>>>> so we can find the biggest ones?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
> > >>>>>>> Kirill
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Ryan Blue
> > >>>>>> Software Engineer
> > >>>>>> Netflix
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Ryan Blue
> > >>>> Software Engineer
> > >>>> Netflix
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Ryan Blue
> > >>> Software Engineer
> > >>> Netflix
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Ryan Blue
> Software Engineer
> Netflix
>



-- 
 kir

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