Hi,

If the encryption code release in parquet-cpp is unused at this moment then
I think we are fine. It means that we are still free to decide any way
about the data structures without the risk of incompatility issues. In this
case I would suggest to proceed as we planned at the Parquet sync.

Thanks,

Zoltan

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 7:49 AM Gidon Gershinsky <[email protected]> wrote:

> That's correct. A layer that runs the crypto classes to encrypt pages and
> structures is not merged yet. Even if the parquet.thrift is out, there is
> virtually no chance encrypted files are created with it, and certainly not
> in production.
>
> Given a (hopefully mild) headache this last-minute feature/requirement has
> caused, let me add details on where it is coming from. I received the
> requirement from a company that got an internal pushback from teams working
> with unencrypted columns only, and unwilling to update Parquet libs. They
> need support for a transition period for the current readers.
>
> We have an option to say no, and stick to the original goal list. But I
> think the requirement makes sense, even if coming very late - and will
> significantly ease adoption of the Parquet encryption. Also, it turns out
> to be easy to implement, with minor changes in the code.
>
> In any case, its certainly a good idea to keep a single copy of
> parquet.thrift in the format repo.
>
> Cheers, Gidon
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 12:55 AM Wes McKinney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > AFAIK encryption is not fully supported in parquet-cpp 1.5.0 so
> > reading and writing files with encryption is not possible. Am I wrong
> > about that?
> >
> > I'm wholly supportive of changing the project to use a released
> > version of the Parquet format, so let's do that ASAP.
> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 1:30 PM Gidon Gershinsky <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yep! (sent in parallel :)
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 8:19 PM Zoltan Ivanfi <[email protected]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > As a short update, I just checked the PR for PARQUET-1419 and
> although
> > in
> > > > its current form it is a breaking change, it can be easily rewritten
> to
> > > > become backwards-compatible so this part of the problem does not
> apply
> > any
> > > > more.
> > > >
> > > > Br,
> > > >
> > > > Zoltan
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 7:10 PM Zoltan Ivanfi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > On the Parquet sync we discussed that the practice of maintaining a
> > copy
> > > > > of parquet.thrift in parquet-cpp is dangerous and that we must take
> > care
> > > > to
> > > > > not release parquet-format changes in parquet-cpp before we
> > officially
> > > > > release them in parquet-format. As I got back to my computer and
> > started
> > > > to
> > > > > create a JIRA about this, I noticed that unfortunately this has
> > already
> > > > > happened.
> > > > >
> > > > > The encryption-releated parquet.thrift changes have not only been
> > added
> > > > to
> > > > > only parquet-format, but to parquet-cpp as well, and these changes
> > got
> > > > > released in parquet-cpp 1.5.0. This is very unfortunate, because
> > > > > PARQUET-1419 would change the encryption in a breaking way, which
> is
> > only
> > > > > acceptable as long as the original is not released. Additionally,
> it
> > has
> > > > > been discussed that a formal voting should take place before
> > > > incorporating
> > > > > the encryption features in the format.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now that parquet-cpp has already shipped these changes, we must
> > choose
> > > > the
> > > > > lesser evil of the following two options:
> > > > >
> > > > >    - Release a parquet-cpp 1.6.0 with a breaking change and risk
> that
> > > > >    encrypted data files already written with parquet-cpp 1.5.0 will
> > not
> > > > be
> > > > >    readable any more.
> > > > >    - Release the encryption in parquet-format as it is, regardless
> of
> > > > >    voting results and discard PARQUET-1419.
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally I have a hard time deciding which one I consider lesser
> > evil.
> > > > > What are your opinions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Zoltan
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>

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