On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 10:30 AM Ryan Blue <[email protected]> wrote:

> > I think we should also make more frequent releases of parquet-format.
>
> I'd like to keep this a separate topic from how we work with the thrift
> file in parquet-java so that we can move forward independently. We don't
> need to know how parquet-format is released to agree that we want to be
> able to build against newer structures without a formal release, just like
> the other implementations do.
>

Fair enough.


>
> > What is the mechanism to track what version of parquet-format,
> parquet-java
> depends on?
>
> Like the other projects, I don't think we track a specific version of the
> one from parquet-format, since we may pick changes that have not been
> released (as that's the pain point we're trying to solve).
>
> That said, I suggest that we sync the format into parquet-java when the
> upstream format is released, if not sooner. We should always use a version
> that corresponds to a parquet-format commit to avoid drift.
>
>
Either in the main branch of parquet-java or at a minimum in releases of
parquet-java we should have an automated check that this file is in sync
with an official release of parquet-format.



> Ryan
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 10:21 AM Julien Le Dem <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I'm strongly in favor of enabling a passing build on PRs like #3610
> > What is the mechanism to track what version of parquet-format,
> > parquet-java depends on? Is there a check to track discrepancies or
> drift?
> > A
> > POC would help clarify this.
> >
> > Separately, I think we should also make more frequent releases of
> > parquet-format.
> > That could be formalized in our new versioning process.
> > In particular every time we merge a new change to the thrift file, we
> could
> > systematically create a new minor-patch release of Parquet format with
> the
> > addition in preview or experimental depending where we're at.
> > The documentation would clarify whether a new optional field is part of
> the
> > official version yet or not.
> > That would decouple publishing versioned artifacts and declaring
> something
> > part of the next official version.
> > (and independently of that we can either depend on a tagged version of
> the
> > file rather than the maven artifact)
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 7:42 AM Russell Spitzer <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 for all the reasons stated above.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2026 at 10:21 PM Gang Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm in favor of this proposal.
> > > >
> > > > PoCing a Java implementation in the current setup is painful. CI
> builds
> > > > will
> > > > always fail, and PRs cannot merge before releasing a new
> parquet-format
> > > > jar.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Gang
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 8:46 PM Antoine Pitrou <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Le 21/07/2026 à 14:05, Andrew Lamb a écrit :
> > > > > > As a maintainer of arrow-rs 's Parquet implementation, my
> > experience
> > > > has
> > > > > > been that our copy of parquet.thrift (rather than a dependency)
> has
> > > > > worked
> > > > > > great, and we have never had an issue with this scheme that I can
> > > > > remember
> > > > >
> > > > > We do the same in Arrow C++ and never had any problem with it
> either.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Antoine.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andrew
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 7:19 AM Divjot Arora via dev <
> > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi folks,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The parquet-java project currently declares a dependency on a
> > pinned
> > > > > >> version of parquet-format and dynamically pulls in the
> > > parquet.thrift
> > > > > file
> > > > > >> for the pinned version.
> > > > > >> This makes it impossible to validate and merge PRs to support
> new
> > > > > features
> > > > > >> that have been merged into parquet-format but are not yet part
> of
> > an
> > > > > >> official parquet-format
> > > > > >> release (https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/pull/3610 is an
> > > > > example).
> > > > > >> In contrast, the arrow-rs and arrow-cpp projects have a vendored
> > > copy
> > > > of
> > > > > >> parquet.thrift in their
> > > > > >> repos, which allows them to bypass this problem. What do folks
> > think
> > > > > about
> > > > > >> adopting this vendored approach in parquet-java?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> -- Div Arora
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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