Hey Div,

Thanks for raising the issue. Was just wrapping up the license stuff, but I 
think it makes sense to drive the nan-order to a conclusion before cutting 
another RC. Mostly because it affects correctness which we cannot jeopardize. 
Unfortunately I had to miss the Parquet sync (holiday period here in the EU, 
spending time with the fam), but looking forward to your separate thread.

Kind regards,
Fokko

On 2026/07/29 17:51:24 Divjot Arora via dev wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> Should we resolve
> https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/pull/3393#issuecomment-5105352662
> before releasing parquet-java? My understanding of the current state is
> that emitting nan_counts but using TYPE_DEFINED_ORDER could result in
> legacy readers seeing finite min/max stats and ignoring nan_counts. In this
> case, such readers could use the min/max stats for pruning and get wrong
> results. However, using the new IEEE sort order has its own risks as there
> are likely legacy readers that cannot parse unknown Thrift enum values.
> 
> This was also discussed in today's Parquet sync meeting and I will start a
> separate thread to discuss the right way forward here. Right now, it seems
> we have a disconnect between parquet-format, where adding the new sort
> order was considered a forward-compatible change, and reference
> implementations, where we seem to think that the new orders can only be
> used in the next major version bump.
> 
> -- Div
> 
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2026 at 11:45 PM Kevin Liu <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Here's a tracking issue for all the LICENSE / NOTICE fixes: "Ensure all
> > published JARs contain correct LICENSE and NOTICE files" #3687 (
> > https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/issues/3687)
> >
> > This will
> > - include LICENSE and NOTICE files in every jar
> > - add CI to validate LICENSE and NOTICE files are included in every jar
> > - update LICENSE and NOTICE for jars that bundle 3rd party code (this is an
> > ASF release requirement)
> >
> > I just went through the process to update LICENSE and NOTICE files for
> > iceberg-java, so I'm still fairly familiar with the process. I would love
> > to have someone double check though :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2026 at 1:13 PM Fokko Driesprong <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Kevin, let me look into that.
> > >
> > > I also found a behavioral change, which I believe is problematic. PR 3575
> > > changes how we emit statistics:
> > > https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/pull/3575. When there is one or
> > > more row-groups that don't have bounds we don't produce statistics at the
> > > file level. The PR changes this by always emitting the null-values (which
> > > will automatically produce file-level stats). In Iceberg we rely on the
> > > fact when statistics are null when one or more row-groups don't have
> > stats:
> > > https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/17321#discussion_r3641772062. I
> > > think this behavioral change cause downstream issues which I think we
> > > should avoid as it might introduce correctness issues.
> > >
> > > I took the liberty of creating a PR to revert that specific change:
> > > https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/pull/3688. Please chime in to let
> > > me know your thoughts.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Fokko
> > >
> > > On 2026/07/22 21:43:03 Kevin Liu wrote:
> > > > I found a potential issue with the license and notice files that might
> > > be a
> > > > release blocker.
> > > >
> > > > Many of the jars lack license files, notice files, or both.
> > > > Out of 59 staged JARs:
> > > > - 40 lack both files
> > > > - 2 lack LICENSE
> > > > - 10 lack NOTICE
> > > > The remaining 7 contain both, but their contents might be incomplete or
> > > > outdated.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the script I used to verify and the result from the audit:
> > > >
> > >
> > https://gist.github.com/kevinjqliu/2f899c085abb2716b13c220d4f52a677?permalink_comment_id=6271325#gistcomment-6271325
> > > >
> > > > I also found that the NOTICE file's copyright year is out of date (
> > > >
> > >
> > https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/blob/83c2c80d49c57b1ae180df45229ee01dbceddc1e/NOTICE#L3
> > > > )
> > > >
> > > > This is my first time verifying a parquet-java release, so please let
> > me
> > > > know if there's anything I'm missing.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Kevin Liu
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at 1:30 PM Steve Loughran <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +1 non-binding.
> > > > >
> > > > >  I only audited the tarball and the maven artifacts,  not the code;
> > > leaving
> > > > > that to others. I was answering the question "did the release-manager
> > > place
> > > > > anything malicious in the nexus artifacts", which is something you
> > > should
> > > > > be doing for all releases these days.
> > > > >
> > > > > Verified the RC1 source tarball and staged Maven artifacts:
> > > > > * Source tarball SHA-512 OK; GPG signature good (Fokko Driesprong,
> > key
> > > 2F37
> > > > > FE05 5E54 7EDD ACD9 A633 B13C 6981 6C5E 13EF). Signed Fokko's key
> > BTW,
> > > as
> > > > > nobody else has.
> > > > > * Extracted source matches tag apache-parquet-1.18.0-rc1 exactly
> > > > > * All 15 staged modules (104 artifacts): SHA-1/MD5 checksums match
> > and
> > > > > every GPG signature is good
> > > > > * Rebuilt from the tag with JDK 11 (mvn clean package):
> > > parquet-encoding
> > > > > and parquet-jackson jars are byte-identical to the release; the rest
> > > differ
> > > > > only in bytecode traceable to a javac string-concat idiom
> > > (String.valueOf +
> > > > > makeConcatWithConstants).
> > > > > * No structural differences (no added/removed classes, methods, or
> > > fields)
> > > > > and no new suspicious API calls in any jar.
> > > > >
> > > > > For anyone who wants to do that jar comparison, Auditor:
> > > > > https://github.com/steveloughran/auditor
> > > > > This disassembles the binary and looks at the bytecodes, so doesn't
> > > require
> > > > > a byte for byte match. Give it to claude to validate (as done here)
> > and
> > > > > it'll analyse why there there's a mismatch.
> > > > >
> > > > > steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 at 15:30, Fokko Driesprong <[email protected]
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I propose the following RC to be released as official Apache
> > Parquet
> > > > > > 1.18.0 release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - The commit id is [5e2ad0969c7f411613671c5ef054d399995de5f9](
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/tree/5e2ad0969c7f411613671c5ef054d399995de5f9
> > > > > > )
> > > > > > - This corresponds to the tag: [apache-parquet-1.18.0-rc1](
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/releases/tag/apache-parquet-1.18.0-rc1
> > > > > > )
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The release tarball, signature, and checksums are here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/parquet/apache-parquet-1.18.0-rc1/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can find the KEYS file here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - https://downloads.apache.org/parquet/KEYS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can find the changelog here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/releases/tag/apache-parquet-1.18.0-rc1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Binary artifacts are staged in Nexus here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -
> > > > >
> > > https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/parquet/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please download, verify, and test.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please vote in the next 72 hours.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [ ] +1 Release this as Apache Parquet 1.18.0
> > > > > > [ ] +0
> > > > > > [ ] -1 Do not release this because...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > > Fokko Driesprong
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 

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