I believe the milestone is restricted to within a single repository while
the project can span multiple projects.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 7:29 AM Claude Warren, Jr <[email protected]>
wrote:

> @Matthew Benedict de Detrich <[email protected]> I would open
> the ticket if the intention was for it to be public.
>
> @[email protected] <[email protected]> I think they add a bit, but
> not much as you say.  However since we have one created, let's move forward
> with it for a bit and see if there is an advantage of the project over the
> milestone.  I think that a milestone can be placed in a project, and that
> might give you the sub-task type grouping.
>
> Claude
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 6:16 PM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don't believe that Github projects really gives us much. It is so basic.
>>
>> The milestone in Github is probably as useful and is public -
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/milestone/1
>>
>>
>> On 2023/02/08 17:33:52 Matthew Benedict de Detrich wrote:
>> > > I do not know how to change from private to public project (though I
>> think
>> > that is what we want)
>> >
>> > Should I make an INFRA ticket for this?
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 6:21 PM Claude Warren, Jr
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > The project is "private" so it is not visible.  I tried the following:
>> > >
>> > >    1. Open an incognito or private browser session
>> > >    2. go to https://github.com/orgs/apache/projects
>> > >
>> > > you will see a list of projects (Pekko not included)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >    1. Using your logged in account go to
>> > >    https://github.com/orgs/apache/projects
>> > >
>> > > You will see Pekko project as a recent project.  Note that it is
>> listed as
>> > > a "private" project.
>> > >
>> > > I do not know how to change from private to public project (though I
>> think
>> > > that is what we want)
>> > >
>> > > As far as not being able to have subtasks.  I think we can work around
>> > > that.  What we need is to put all the required tasks into the project
>> so
>> > > that once they are  completed we know we have a release candidate.
>> > >
>> > > Claude
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 8:37 PM Jean-Luc Deprez <
>> [email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > The projects is indeed invisible to non committers 🤷‍♂️
>> > > >
>> > > > The milestone of course is visible.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 3:27 PM Matthew Benedict de Detrich
>> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > > The main thing that I don't like is that you don't seem to be
>> able to
>> > > > > create subtasks of tasks.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > So I think this as a concept is alien to github, there is no such
>> thing
>> > > > as
>> > > > > sub tasks of tasks. At least from what I can tell, you just link
>> tasks
>> > > to
>> > > > > another (often just by literally placing a link to the task
>> somewhere
>> > > in
>> > > > > the comment) and if. you want something like "subtasks" or lets
>> say an
>> > > > > "epic" this would be done with labels.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks for setting this up though, ill try and have a look at it.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 2:07 PM PJ Fanning <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I enabled Github projects but am a little disappointed by its
>> feature
>> > > > > set.
>> > > > > > I've never used it before.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > https://github.com/orgs/apache/projects/220/views/1
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm not sure about access - in theory, any member of the Apache
>> > > > > committers
>> > > > > > Github group can access it. We may be able to invite other
>> people
>> > > > (looks
>> > > > > > like there is an invite box). If does not look like we can make
>> it
>> > > > fully
>> > > > > > public.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The main thing that I don't like is that you don't seem to be
>> able to
>> > > > > > create subtasks of tasks.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The 2 tasks I added are high level and should be replaced with
>> > > smaller
>> > > > > > tasks. I just added them to see how they appear in the various
>> views.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > It could be worth looking at alternatives like adding a page to
>> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/PEKKO or using a
>> shared
>> > > > > > Google Sheet.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On 2023/02/02 17:26:13 Matthew Benedict de Detrich wrote:
>> > > > > > > Agreed, github projects was created to solve this problem.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 4:18 PM PJ Fanning <
>> [email protected]>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > We could try using GitHub projects. I would just use the
>> main
>> > > pekko
>> > > > > > github
>> > > > > > > > repo instead of creating more repos. We have a lot already.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Thu 2 Feb 2023, 15:29 Claude Warren, Jr, <
>> > > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > > .invalid>
>> > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > I think we could create a new project called "First Pekko
>> core
>> > > > > > > > prerelease"
>> > > > > > > > > (or something like that) and put all of the issues into
>> the
>> > > > > project,
>> > > > > > so
>> > > > > > > > we
>> > > > > > > > > have a quick overview of all the bits that need fixing
>> before
>> > > we
>> > > > > can
>> > > > > > move
>> > > > > > > > > on to other modules.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 8:46 PM Matthew Benedict de
>> Detrich
>> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Commenting where I can
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 5:43 PM Keith Wansbrough
>> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Hi folks,
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Following up on PJ's list of key issues remaining and
>> my
>> > > > offer
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > help
>> > > > > > > > > > > out, I've had a stab at working out the status of
>> each of
>> > > > those
>> > > > > > > > issues
>> > > > > > > > > -
>> > > > > > > > > > in
>> > > > > > > > > > > particular, is someone already working on it and if so
>> > > where?
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > I've also identified a couple of other issues I think
>> are
>> > > > worth
>> > > > > > > > > > addressing
>> > > > > > > > > > > at this stage.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Please can you check I've got this right? Then I can
>> pick
>> > > an
>> > > > > open
>> > > > > > > > issue
>> > > > > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > > > > work on, and maybe others can do so too.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Key issues remaining in incubator-pekko:
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * getting the Apache license headers into the source
>> > > files
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Blocked on
>> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues/38
>> > > > > ?
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > This is actually done, I have closed the github issue to
>> > > > reflect
>> > > > > > this.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * getting the nightlies published
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > In progress at
>> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues/103
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Indeed, I am working on this (see
>> > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/pull/105).
>> Note
>> > > that
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > publish
>> > > > > > > > > > terminology is currently being overloaded, currently the
>> > > first
>> > > > > > > > iteration
>> > > > > > > > > > of  Apache nightlies is working (see
>> > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/pull/60) but
>> this
>> > > is
>> > > > > > > > according
>> > > > > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > > > Apache's release guidelines which is basically just
>> copying
>> > > > > > content to
>> > > > > > > > a
>> > > > > > > > > > folder (done by rsync). This is separate to an actual
>> Maven
>> > > > > > publish to
>> > > > > > > > a
>> > > > > > > > > > nexus repo (which is what I am working on now).
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * getting the doc site up
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > In progress at
>> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues/99 ?
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * careful review of the docs to remove any remaining
>> > > > > > references to
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Lightbend or Akka (including logos)
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > In progress at
>> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/pull/100
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * new look and feel for the docs (just so they
>> don't look
>> > > > > > exactly
>> > > > > > > > > like
>> > > > > > > > > > > > the Akka ones)
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > In progress at
>> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues/92 ?
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * review the automated test failures
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Seems open for contribution - I can't find an issue
>> or PR
>> > > for
>> > > > > > this.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * source and binary distributions
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > In progress at
>> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues/85
>> > > > > > > > > (see
>> > > > > > > > > > > also
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues/78)
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >  I wouldn't say this in progress, rather some
>> > > > prototyping/initial
>> > > > > > > > > thinking
>> > > > > > > > > > needs to be done on which sbt plugin to use.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * upgrade dependency jars if they have CVEs (unless
>> we
>> > > need
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > make
>> > > > > > > > > > > > major changes to facilitate the upgrade)
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > This is blocked for now; see explanation at
>> > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues/101
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > I also see a few other things that need to be done:
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > * Create a migration guide.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > I am going to make an issue tangentially related to this
>> > > > because
>> > > > > > there
>> > > > > > > > > are
>> > > > > > > > > > non trivial technical tasks to solve for migrating,
>> i.e. wire
>> > > > > > > > > > incompatibility when migrating currently running Peko
>> > > clusters.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > * Improve README and contribution guide, e.g., to make
>> > > clear
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > current
>> > > > > > > > > > > status and how to help right now (in our pre-v1.0
>> state),
>> > > how
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > build
>> > > > > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > > > test locally, etc.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > * Resolve issues identified by podling scan (
>> > > > > > > > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/pekko.html -
>> currently
>> > > > > > reports
>> > > > > > > > > many
>> > > > > > > > > > > things missing which we do have; looks like this
>> might be
>> > > > > simply
>> > > > > > due
>> > > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > > > > http://pekko.incubator.apache.org/ being a 404 at the
>> > > > moment.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks!
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > --KW 8-)
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > > > > > From: Keith Wansbrough
>> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2023 5:17 PM
>> > > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected]
>> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: M0 release for incubator-pekko repo
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks PJ. I hope to put some effort into Pekko over
>> the
>> > > next
>> > > > > few
>> > > > > > > > > weeks,
>> > > > > > > > > > > so this comes at the right time! We have a few
>> components
>> > > > > > currently
>> > > > > > > > > using
>> > > > > > > > > > > Akka and would much prefer to move to a community
>> fork than
>> > > > > > either
>> > > > > > > > > > maintain
>> > > > > > > > > > > an internal fork or rewrite from scratch. I'll take a
>> look
>> > > > and
>> > > > > > see
>> > > > > > > > what
>> > > > > > > > > > we
>> > > > > > > > > > > can do.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > --KW 8-)
>> > > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > > > Keith Wansbrough
>> > > > > > > > > > > he/him
>> > > > > > > > > > > PRINCIPAL SOFTWARE ENGINEER
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>> > > > > > > > > > > Office: +44 131 662 1212
>> > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/kw217
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > > > > > From: Matthew Benedict de Detrich <
>> > > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > > .INVALID>
>> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2023 4:58 PM
>> > > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected]
>> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: M0 release for incubator-pekko repo
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > I agree with the sentiment that in general we should
>> be
>> > > > > focusing
>> > > > > > on
>> > > > > > > > > > > pekko-core (in any case it's necessary for all of the
>> other
>> > > > > pekko
>> > > > > > > > > > modules).
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned in my earlier email today pekko-core is
>> in a
>> > > > good
>> > > > > > state
>> > > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > > > > work on right now, so it should be quite practical to
>> split
>> > > > out
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > mentioned work amongst the community. The main
>> technical
>> > > task
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > be
>> > > > > > > > > done
>> > > > > > > > > > is
>> > > > > > > > > > > to figure out how migrating from an Akka to Pekko
>> cluster
>> > > > would
>> > > > > > work.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Regards
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > > > Matthew de Detrich
>> > > > > > > > > > > Aiven Deutschland GmbH
>> > > > > > > > > > > Immanuelkirchstraße 26, 10405 Berlin
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>> > > > > > > > > > > w: aiven.io e: [email protected] On 5. Jan
>> 2023
>> > > at
>> > > > > > 16:16
>> > > > > > > > > +0100,
>> > > > > > > > > > > PJ Fanning <[email protected]>, wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to ignore that there are other pekko git
>> > > repos. A
>> > > > > > lot of
>> > > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > same work needs to be done for those repos but it
>> > > > simplifies
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > conversation to ignore them in this thread. We can
>> come
>> > > > back
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > them
>> > > > > > > > > > > > later.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > There has been good progress but there is a lot
>> still to
>> > > > do.
>> > > > > > Some
>> > > > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > > > > > > the key issues remaining include.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * getting the Apache license headers into the source
>> > > files
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * getting the nightlies published
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * getting the doc site up
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * careful review of the docs to remove any remaining
>> > > > > > references to
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Lightbend or Akka (including logos)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * new look and feel for the docs (just so they
>> don't look
>> > > > > > exactly
>> > > > > > > > > like
>> > > > > > > > > > > > the Akka ones)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * review the automated test failures
>> > > > > > > > > > > > * source and binary distributions
>> > > > > > > > > > > > (
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgit
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>> > > > > > > > >
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>> > > > > > > > > > > > * upgrade dependency jars if they have CVEs (unless
>> we
>> > > need
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > make
>> > > > > > > > > > > > major changes to facilitate the upgrade)
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Some of these tasks are in progress but most of the
>> tasks
>> > > > > > could be
>> > > > > > > > > > > > taken on by willing volunteers.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > There may be an argument that we could try an early
>> M0 or
>> > > > M1
>> > > > > > > > release
>> > > > > > > > > > > > to allow outside lib maintainers and other
>> interested
>> > > > parties
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > try
>> > > > > > > > > > > > out the new libs. There are probably not many of the
>> > > items
>> > > > > > above
>> > > > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > > > > > could be delayed to a later milstone though -
>> possibly
>> > > some
>> > > > > of
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > doc
>> > > > > > > > > > > > and test tasks.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
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