> It is impractical to try to hive off some of these plugins to some
other Apache project. I have seen a small number of Apache projects
that use sbt. Most are retired.

Apache Sadona and Daffodil both use sbt and neither are retired,
Daffodil actually expressed interest when I asked them but it wasn't
the right time for them to use it (for obvious reasons).

> But remember that brings us back to
have more complicated releases every time we need to release small
changes to the plugins.

True but the two plugins that I am talking about also happen to
be ones who's functionality is stable/frozen, I am not really expecting
any significant changes to either of those plugins. In fact I would be
surprised if we end up doing more than one release a year for either
of those plugins due to the nature of what they do.

However as I said earlier, the desired "location" for these packages
is also not entirely clear in ASF, they basically sit in some kind of
purgatory area between an official ASF project and an internal ASF
tool, i.e. they are not specific to any ASF project however at the same
time they are not intended to be used for anything that is not an
ASF project.

In any case sbt-pekko-build is the more critical one that is seeing
frequent updates and is actually tied to Pekko, so maybe we can
immediately start transferring this one to Apache github org/Pekko TLP
while figuring out if its even worth the hassle of doing the "proper" thing
for the other 2 projects?

On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 1:01 AM PJ Fanning <fannin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It is impractical to try to hive off some of these plugins to some
> other Apache project. I have seen a small number of Apache projects
> that use sbt. Most are retired. If you want to propose starting a new
> podling in the Incubator - maybe. But remember that brings us back to
> have more complicated releases every time we need to release small
> changes to the plugins. I think the plugins can live in the Pekko
> project and one or more of them can be moved to another Apache project
> or podling at a later date.
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