Thanks guys.

I will make another set of L&N files (other than what's in the root of PR
53) for the source-only release artifacts and figure out where to place
them based on the previous comments. I will add them to PR 53, so let's not
merge yet (I will change the status to WIP)...

I want to make sure that we follow the correct ASF procedures for L&N files
(whatever time that it takes) and get it as 'right as possible' with the
first release.


On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Billie Rinaldi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Every artifact needs L&N files, so the source release zip and jars all need
> their own L&N. Perhaps the L&N would be the same for the zip and
> source-only jars (depending on the exact contents), while the exe jar would
> need a different L&N.
>
> I believe the assembly plugin only creates the zip, and some other plugin
> creates the jars. Possibly the jar plugin, or the remote resources plugin
> might be involved (based on the comment in the parent pom:
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/pom/trunk/asf/pom.xml). Either way,
> it seems like changing the plugin configuration might not be necessary to
> modify L&N in jars; we may just be able to drop in the L&N in a META-INF
> directory in src/main/resources or src/main/appended-resources (as in the
> examples linked in Joe's and my previous emails). As for the source release
> zip, the L&N from the main project directory will be used.
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Ellison Anne Williams <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > From the discussion, although this seems to be somewhat murky ASF ground,
> > it seems that we need two sets of L&N files:
> >
> > 1.) L&N files to accompany executable jars, which include the transitive
> > L&N requirements dictated by the build (this is what our L&N files
> reflect
> > in PR 53)
> >
> > 2.) L&N files to accompany source-only jars, which, in our case, would
> > really include only 'our' ASL L&N as we aren't distributing anything else
> > but our source
> >
> > Is this correct?
> >
> > If so, from Billie's comments, it seems that we can accomplish this via
> > configuring our maven assembly plugin. We can make a 'assembly'
> directory,
> > include the source-only L&N files there, and configure accordingly. Is
> this
> > an acceptable practice?
> >
> >
> >
> > P.S. -- When I downloaded the NiFI source release here
> > https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua?path=/nifi/1.0.0-
> > BETA/nifi-1.0.0-BETA-source-release.zip
> > and checked the LICENSE and NOTICE files, I see the same files as in the
> > master branch on github -- am I completely missing something here?
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Billie Rinaldi <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It looks like it is also possible to have
> > > src/main/appended-resources/META-INF/LICENSE and
> > > src/main/appended-resources/META-INF/NOTICE that will be appended to
> the
> > > default. See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACCUMULO-3990 and
> > these
> > > examples:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/tree/master/server/
> > > monitor/src/main/appended-resources/META-INF
> > > https://github.com/apache/hbase/tree/master/hbase-
> > > thrift/src/main/appended-resources/META-INF
> > >
> > > This is for jars; it's also easy to adjust L&N for assemblies (tars and
> > > zips) because you're explicitly listing files to include in the
> assembly
> > > spec.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Tim Ellison <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 17/08/16 16:08, Ellison Anne Williams wrote:
> > > > > I'm seeing the same LICENSE and NOTICE files used throughout NiFi -
> > > even
> > > > in
> > > > > the nifi-assembly directory which is referenced here
> > > > > https://nifi.apache.org/licensing-guide.html
> > > >
> > > > FWIW the LICENSE I see in "nifi-1.0.0-BETA-source-release.zip" is
> > quite
> > > > different to that in "nifi-1.0.0-BETA-bin.tar.gz".  So they have
> > figured
> > > > it out.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > > > Joe - Am I missing something here?
> > > > >
> > > > > I would echo Suneel and ask if (1) it is really a strict
> requirement
> > > for
> > > > > our sources jar and/or (2) if we are interpreting it correctly.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Suneel Marthi <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Tim Ellison <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On 17/08/16 11:40, ellisonanne wrote:
> > > > >>>> Github user ellisonanne commented on a diff in the pull request:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>     https://github.com/apache/incubator-pirk/pull/65#
> > > > >>> discussion_r75099656
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>     --- Diff: LICENSE ---
> > > > >>>>     @@ -199,4 +199,64 @@
> > > > >>>>         distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS
> IS"
> > > > >> BASIS,
> > > > >>>>         WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either
> > express
> > > > or
> > > > >>> implied.
> > > > >>>>         See the License for the specific language governing
> > > > permissions
> > > > >>> and
> > > > >>>>     -   limitations under the License.
> > > > >>>>     \ No newline at end of file
> > > > >>>>     +   limitations under the License.
> > > > >>>>     +
> > > > >>>>     +
> > > > >>>>     +=============================
> ==============================
> > > > >>> ============
> > > > >>>>     +Apache Pirk (incubating) Subcomponents:
> > > > >>>>     +
> > > > >>>>     +The Apache Pirk project contains subcomponents with
> separate
> > > > >>> copyright
> > > > >>>>     +notices and license terms. Your use of the source code for
> > the
> > > > >> these
> > > > >>>>     +subcomponents is subject to the terms and conditions of the
> > > > >>> following
> > > > >>>>     +licenses.
> > > > >>>>     +
> > > > >>>>     --- End diff --
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I'm confused - how do we create different LICENSE and NOTICE
> files
> > > > >>>> for the different jars when they are built via the release
> plugin?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I'm guessing it requires some pom foo beyond my feeble
> capabilities
> > > :-(
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I am not sure how u can package/not package license files in
> > different
> > > > >> artifacts.
> > > > >> If this is a strict requirement, a good chunk of TLPs today are in
> > > > >> violation of this.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Should we have Justin McLean or John D. Ament from IPMC review our
> > > > >> artifacts now?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Besides stating the obvious that :
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> (1) we'd store the source LICENSE and NOTICE file in the project
> > > > >>> repository root, and place in there only the required information
> > for
> > > > >>> code we are hosting in our repo and including in the source.jar.
> > For
> > > > >>> Pirk as it is today, that will be a plain ALv2 text and simple
> > > notice.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> (2) we'd then have alternative LICENSE and NOTICE files for the
> > > > >>> convenience "exe" JAR in a subdirectory that are used to replace
> > the
> > > > >>> top-level files when building the binaries.  This would refer to
> > the
> > > > >>> license/ directory containing the full text of the 3rd-party
> > > licenses.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Maybe our friends from Apache NiFi can explain what they do, as
> > they
> > > > >>> have the correct information in their release guide [1], and they
> > are
> > > > >>> Maven-based too.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> A number of other projects I peeked into don't seem to be doing
> the
> > > > >>> right thing IMHO.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> [1] https://nifi.apache.org/licensing-guide.html
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Regards,
> > > > >>> Tim
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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