Will do thanks.

Just to be clear -- the META-INF dir with the binary L&N files will be
removed and the binary-related L&N files will be moved to as assembly
directory (or something similar) when we break out the submodules. In the
meantime the META-INF (with binary L&N files) as in the PR will be merged
after adding the README as suggested. Folks will be responsible for
updating the binary L&N files as they add dependencies.

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Suneel Marthi <[email protected]>
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Tim Ellison <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On 20 August 2016 at 17:04, Ellison Anne Williams <
> > [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, if that's acceptable, then I can go that route.
> > >
> > > I can allow the artifacts to be generated and pushed to Nexus, I can
> > remove
> > > the binary artifacts, fix the L&N files, rehash/sign, and upload.
> Then, I
> > > can close the repo (which will run through all signing verifications)
> and
> > >  provide the URL for voting. Once we get the submodules in place, the
> L&N
> > > file placement will be taken care of automatically for binary artifacts
> > and
> > > the manual intervention won't be necessary.
> > >
> > > Would it be OK to go ahead and merge the PR with the binary L&N files
> in
> > > the bin-license-notice dir in META-INF? That way, folks can be
> > responsible
> > > for keeping them updated as they add any new dependencies.
> > >
> >
> > That works for me.  Unless other mentors object, I say we go with this
> > plan.
> >
> > To avoid any confusion you may want to consider creating a brief readme
> > file in the META-INF to explain that the L&N files in there only relate
> to
> > the exe-jar.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Tim Ellison <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 20 August 2016 at 16:23, Ellison Anne Williams <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Tim - yes, I've been following that thread with interest. To
> > > speak
> > > > > to the documentation for Pirk releases, I have been working on a
> page
> > > for
> > > > > the website documenting our release process (and the gotchas)
> > > > step-by-step.
> > > > > Once we complete a successful release vote internally, I will put
> > forth
> > > > the
> > > > > page for comment. I agree with the discussion on the
> > general@incubator
> > > > > thread that the release process for a project needs to be
> documented
> > > such
> > > > > that anyone can walk into the project and complete a release - it
> > > > shouldn't
> > > > > be a mystical endeavor.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't know precisely what steps you are following at the moment,
> but
> > if
> > > > there is an opportunity to manually intervene and fix-up the binary
> JAR
> > > > licenses before the artefacts are hashed / signed / uploaded then
> that
> > > > could simply be a "documented step" until the scripts handle it all.
> > > >
> > > > ... or even produce the JAR, then
> > > >  - delete the exe-jar's sig/hash
> > > >  - rearrange the L&N files
> > > >  - re-sign/hash
> > > >
> > > > Provided it is a repeatable process for the binaries, I think that
> > would
> > > be
> > > > ok.
> > > >
> > > > WDYT?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Tim Ellison <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 20 August 2016 at 04:52, Ellison Anne Williams <
> > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > After spending a bit of time taking a look at the submodule
> > > > breakout, I
> > > > > > > would rather wait and break the project out into submodules in
> a
> > > more
> > > > > > > deliberate manner (not as a first pass just for the binary
> > > > artifacts).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As submodules seem to be required to get the L&N files for
> binary
> > > > > > > distributions up to par, I propose that we proceed with a
> source
> > > only
> > > > > > > release now. We will slate the submodules for our next release
> > (or
> > > > so).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We've certainly learned tons about the release process over the
> > > last
> > > > > week
> > > > > > > and I think that it would be good to go ahead and exercise the
> > full
> > > > > > process
> > > > > > > to completion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Unless anyone objects, I will try to get the source release
> > > artifacts
> > > > > up
> > > > > > > for voting over the weekend.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sure.  Thanks for your continued focus on this Ellison Anne.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FYI there is a discussion underway on [email protected] that
> > is
> > > > > > relevant to this thread...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-
> > > > general/201608.mbox/%
> > > > > > 3C5113b38e-e52b-0c16-eced-903e00fc4477%40apache.org%3E
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I mention it as I expect the Incubator PMC are likely to assess
> > > Pirk's
> > > > > > release by this criteria, given it will be fresh in people's mind
> > > when
> > > > > our
> > > > > > vote is proposed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Tim
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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