On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Greg Brown <gk_br...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > How do you launch application like > > org.apache.pivot.tutorials.effects.CollapseTransition with > > DesktopApplicationContext? > > java -cp ... org.apache.pivot.wtk.DesktopApplicationContext > org.apache.pivot.tutorials.effects.CollapseTransition > > > There might be someway to execute them without creating a new class, but > it > > would be more convenient if there is already executable Java class to run > > from Eclipse environment. in particular tutorial which meant for > beginners. > > You can use the Eclipse plugin to easily launch Pivot applications from > within Eclipse: > > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/108483/org.apache.pivot.eclipse_2.0.0.jar > > You can right-click on any class that implements Application to launch it > as a desktop app. > I was running application that way. If you teach something to busy newbies, that is the way to go, should not rely on more complicated environment settings. > > > I think it is OK to provide internet/browser version. But there should be > > another version for desktop application developer. > > Also I felt these presentation is suppressing the advantage of pivot to > > develop web app first as ordinal desktop application (easy to debug), > then > > deploy to web. > > Not entirely sure what you mean. All of the demos and tutorials are > developed first as desktop apps, then deployed to the web. > The current Pivot site does not provide such development steps. Just providing final web based application. > > > The current focus on BXML makes it difficult to employ these Java > features. > > If I did not develop BXML2Java converter, such generic library > development > > would have been more difficult. > > This is more of a documentation issue than anything else. I think your > complaint is that the documentation focuses too much on BXML rather than > pure Java examples. That may be true, but as I said, with limited time you > have to focus on the things that will have the most impact, and it's > generally easier to read and understand a BXML example than a Java one. > Also, after reading the BXML Primer, you can easily figure out how the > markup maps back to Java. > Good document and sample code are both important. Even there is a good document, it is far from sufficient. People just want to copy and paste from sample code. > > > I already created a basic CRUD sample library. GenericTableView, > > GenericForm, GenericCRUDPane, etc. > > Although these are not accessing DB now, I think if other people join > this > > pivot CRUD project, it would be nice. > > > Cool. Why don't you create a Google Code project for it? > > > I may do so, but it would be nice if Pivot support this as the sub(?) project. I mean it don't have be mine, but some CRUD support should be a part of Pivot as other frameworks do. -- Cheers, calathus
