Hi Niclas,
thanks for the feedback. So you mean to make the Activator in API/SPI
generic so every Driver would call it and declare the service itself?

Le mar. 5 mai 2020 à 05:25, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> a écrit :

> What you are doing is not particularly OSGi-y... The expected way to do
> this is to have each bundle register their PlcDriver or Transport to the
> OSGi service registry.
>
> That said, what you have done is otherwise fine, as you basically trying to
> centralize the BundleActivators away from respective Driver/Transport. And
> I assume you do so to limit code in the drivers/transports.
>
> Another way would be to make two generic BundleActivator in this bundle and
> have each driver/transport just declare them in the manifest. That would be
> a bit more conventional.
>
> // Niclas
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 11:06 AM Robinet, Etienne <43...@etu.he2b.be>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > With the change of Christofer this problem got solved. Nonetheless, I
> kept
> > the work I did (inspired by the work of Lukasz) to make an Activator for
> > API (Driver Services) and SPI (Transport Services). I also tested it, but
> > as I am pretty new to this, if anyone could just give me a feedback on
> the
> > code:
> >
> > API Activator:
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/feature/osgi/plc4j/api/src/main/java/org/apache/plc4x/java/osgi/ApiActivator.java
> > SPI Activator:
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/plc4x/blob/feature/osgi/plc4j/spi/src/main/java/org/apache/plc4x/java/osgi/SpiActivator.java
> >
> > If everything is alright, I could merge this today.
> >
> > Etienne
> >
> > Le mar. 7 avr. 2020 à 17:52, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
> a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > I just pushed a change that might get rid of this error.
> > >
> > > I added the Plc4xBootstrap in an attempt to get the TestTransport
> > working.
> > > For some reasons the netty folks created the EmbeddedChannel
> differently
> > > than the rest.
> > > However as the TestTransport is the only one needing this change, I
> moved
> > > these classes to the test-transport module
> > > and extended NettyChannelFactory with a createBootstrap method which is
> > > simply overridden in TestTransport.
> > >
> > > So please give everything a try if it now works as planned.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 07.04.20, 17:36 schrieb "Etienne Robinet" <43...@etu.he2b.be>:
> > >
> > >     Hi all,
> > >     I’ve checked the Manifest. If I put the Embed-Dependency to the
> > > plc4j-spi artifact  it does not find the Transport Service. And if I
> dont
> > > it does not find the Plc4xBootstrap.
> > >
> > >     Etienne ROBINET
> > >
> > >     > Le 7 avr. 2020 à 16:48, Łukasz Dywicki <l...@code-house.org> a
> > > écrit :
> > >     >
> > >     > I was updating my local checkout yesterday. Can't promise if I
> will
> > > be
> > >     > able to help, but will give a try with 0.7 snapshot.
> > >     >
> > >     > Best,
> > >     > Łukasz
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >> On 07.04.2020 15:39, Etienne Robinet wrote:
> > >     >> Hi again,
> > >     >> I've been looking at this issue all day, and I am back to the
> > > initial error:
> > >     >> https://i.imgur.com/LLfan8H.png
> > >     >>
> > >     >> The difference is I used and Activator for API and SPI to
> register
> > > the driver and transports Service, which are then loaded by the custom
> > > blueprint. The error now is caused again because this class is not
> > exported
> > > (I think?) by the SPI, but is used by one of the dependency (io.netty).
> > >     >> Any ideas on how to solve this?
> > >     >>
> > >     >> Etienne
> > >     >>
> > >     >>> On 2020/04/07 06:53:54, Etienne Robinet <erobi...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >     >>> Hi all,
> > >     >>> the faulty ClassLoader is the
> > > BundleDelegatingClassLoader(plc4x-test [191]). Which means that the
> > custom
> > > bundle can not find the class right?
> > >     >>>
> > >     >>> I'm sorry if it's a silly question but I am pretty new to this.
> > >     >>>
> > >     >>> Etienne
> > >     >>>
> > >     >>> On 2020/04/06 20:28:17, Łukasz Dywicki <l...@code-house.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >     >>>> I haven't used Camel for a while, but to me it seems to be a
> > > problem
> > >     >>>> caused by caller's classloader.
> > >     >>>>
> > >     >>>> See that in stack trace you have a thread which is started by
> > > camel, so
> > >     >>>> there are 3 or even 4 classloaders to be considered:
> > >     >>>> - plc4x, definitely not a faulty one
> > >     >>>> - netty, could be troublesome but unlikely to be used
> > >     >>>> - camel-core, or component itself
> > >     >>>> - custom bundle which started the route
> > >     >>>>
> > >     >>>> Anything beside last one which knows all the dependencies will
> > > blow up
> > >     >>>> whole universe. Here is why - only the custom bundle knows all
> > the
> > >     >>>> dependencies necessary to run logic and can be used to fix
> > messed
> > > up
> > >     >>>> classpath. In most of the cases, that's the "trick" you have
> to
> > > make in
> > >     >>>> order to get OSGi happy.
> > >     >>>> Camel component may not, and should not depend on specific
> > driver,
> > >     >>>> however in your case it does. Possibly due to new APIs in
> > > transport
> > >     >>>> layer its shouldn't be used for adhoc fixes.
> > >     >>>>
> > >     >>>> We can try to turn drivers into services (see here
> > >     >>>>
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/splatch/plc4x/commit/5ce379cf8d2f5dc91fdfb6d8a8e2c0531906e69f
> > > )
> > >     >>>> in order to cut concrete class dependency and rely on isolated
> > > APIs.
> > >     >>>> This code was done before new abstractions over netty were
> > > introduced,
> > >     >>>> but it should cut in half API and caller side (not sure if
> we're
> > > on
> > >     >>>> declarative services).
> > >     >>>>
> > >     >>>> My tip to you Etienne - please verify which class loader is
> used
> > > in your
> > >     >>>> polling cycle. You can do that by making breakpoint in faulty
> > > method of
> > >     >>>> S7Driver and evaluating expression
> > >     >>>> "Thread.currentThread().getContextClassLoader()".
> > >     >>>> Once you know that you can either fix classloading in the
> > calling
> > > class
> > >     >>>> loader or override classloader for thread to proper one.
> > >     >>>>
> > >     >>>> Best,
> > >     >>>> Łukasz
> > >     >>>>
> > >     >>>>
> > >     >>>> On 03.04.2020 10:27, Etienne Robinet wrote:
> > >     >>>>> Hi Christian,
> > >     >>>>> you mean the code used in the Camel route? It is an
> blueprint:
> > >     >>>>>
> > >     >>>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> > >     >>>>> <blueprint xmlns="http://www.osgi.org/xmlns/blueprint/v1.0.0
> "
> > >     >>>>>           xmlns:xsi="
> http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance
> > "
> > >     >>>>>           xsi:schemaLocation= "
> > > http://www.osgi.org/xmlns/blueprint/v1.0.0
> > > https://www.osgi.org/xmlns/blueprint/v1.0.0/blueprint.xsd
> > >     >>>>>            http://camel.apache.org/schema/blueprint
> > > http://camel.apache.org/schema/blueprint/camel-blueprint-2.24.2.xsd";>
> > >     >>>>>
> > >     >>>>>
> > >     >>>>>    <camelContext id="PLC-IoTDB" xmlns="
> > > http://camel.apache.org/schema/blueprint"; streamCache="true" >
> > >     >>>>>        <route id="plc-route" >
> > >     >>>>>            <from
> > > uri="timer://plcFetch?fixedRate=true&period=1000"/>
> > >     >>>>>            <pollEnrich>
> > >     >>>>>                <simple>plc4x:s7:tcp://
> > > 192.168.178.10?address=#fields</simple>
> > >     >>>>>            </pollEnrich>
> > >     >>>>>            <log message="${body}"/>
> > >     >>>>>            <to uri="mock:test?retainLast=10"/>
> > >     >>>>>        </route>
> > >     >>>>>    </camelContext>
> > >     >>>>>
> > >     >>>>>
> > >     >>>>>    <bean id="fields" class="java.util.ArrayList">
> > >     >>>>>        <argument>
> > >     >>>>>            <list>
> > >     >>>>>               <bean class="org.apache.plc4x.camel.TagData">
> > >     >>>>>                   <argument index="0" value="IntTest"/>
> > >     >>>>>                   <argument index="1"
> value="%DB1.DBW254:INT"/>
> > >     >>>>>               </bean>
> > >     >>>>>               <bean class="org.apache.plc4x.camel.TagData">
> > >     >>>>>                   <argument index="0" value="StringTest"/>
> > >     >>>>>                   <argument index="1"
> > value="%DB1.DBX0:STRING"/>
> > >     >>>>>               </bean>
> > >     >>>>>            </list>
> > >     >>>>>        </argument>
> > >     >>>>>    </bean>
> > >     >>>>> </blueprint>
> > >     >>>>>
> > >     >>>>> This code used to wrok actually, I just wanted to test the
> new
> > > TagData of the integration. This is the bundling in the pom, these
> > imports
> > > had to be there before too
> > >     >>>>>
> > >     >>>>> <plugin>
> > >     >>>>>                <groupId>org.apache.felix</groupId>
> > >     >>>>>                <artifactId>maven-bundle-plugin</artifactId>
> > >     >>>>>                <version>4.2.1</version>
> > >     >>>>>                <extensions>true</extensions>
> > >     >>>>>                <configuration>
> > >     >>>>>                    <instructions>
> > >     >>>>>
> > > <Bundle-SymbolicName>${project.artifactId}</Bundle-SymbolicName>
> > >     >>>>>
> > > <Bundle-Version>${project.version}</Bundle-Version>
> > >     >>>>>                        <Export-Package>
> > >     >>>>>                           *;version=${project.version}
> > >     >>>>>                        </Export-Package>
> > >     >>>>>                        <Import-Package>
> > >     >>>>>
> org.apache.plc4x.java.spi.transport,
> > >     >>>>>
> org.apache.plc4x.java.s7.readwrite,
> > >     >>>>>                            *
> > >     >>>>>                        </Import-Package>
> > >     >>>>>                    </instructions>
> > >     >>>>>                </configuration>
> > >     >>>>>            </plugin>
> > >     >>>>>
> > >     >>>>>
> > >     >>>>> Etienne
> > >     >>>>>
> > >     >>>>> On 2020/04/03 08:17:45, Christian Schneider <
> > > ch...@die-schneider.net> wrote:
> > >     >>>>>> The code in plc4x directly uses the class (not a String of
> the
> > > name). This
> > >     >>>>>> is good. Normally such a class reference should work fine.
> > >     >>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>> Can you show your code as a complete example?
> > >     >>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>> Christian
> > >     >>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>> Am Fr., 3. Apr. 2020 um 09:58 Uhr schrieb Julian Feinauer <
> > >     >>>>>> j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>:
> > >     >>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>> I am off with my knowledge.
> > >     >>>>>>> You could ask the Karaf friends (#karaf in Slack). They are
> > > all OSGi
> > >     >>>>>>> experts and very friendly and helpful.
> > >     >>>>>>> Or perhaps Christian has an idea here?
> > >     >>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>> Best
> > >     >>>>>>> Julian
> > >     >>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>> Am 03.04.20, 09:50 schrieb "Etienne Robinet" <
> > > erobi...@apache.org>:
> > >     >>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>    Hi again,
> > >     >>>>>>>    I've been struggling with this issue for 2 days now... I
> > > still don't
> > >     >>>>>>> get it why it can not find classes. here is the current
> > > problem:
> > >     >>>>>>>    https://i.imgur.com/LtZMdsu.png
> > >     >>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>    We can see that the classes are available and exported,
> I
> > > don't know
> > >     >>>>>>> why the Camel Context can't find it. I even tried to add an
> > > Activator to my
> > >     >>>>>>> bundle, and load these classes there and it works! But not
> in
> > > the
> > >     >>>>>>> blueprint. If anyone had any idea on where the problem
> is...
> > >     >>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>    Etienne
> > >     >>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>    On 2020/04/01 01:31:15, Niclas Hedhman <
> > nic...@hedhman.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >     >>>>>>>> It happens that OSGi classloading result in the wrong
> NCDFE
> > > and that
> > >     >>>>>>> one of
> > >     >>>>>>>> the classes "used" (i.e. return type, parameter, throws,
> > > extends,
> > >     >>>>>>>> implements) in the reported class is not visible by the
> > > classloader.
> > >     >>>>>>> And
> > >     >>>>>>>> occasionally, it is a "diamond problem", i.e. that the
> > > Constraints
> > >     >>>>>>> (IIRC,
> > >     >>>>>>>> see chapter 3.8 in OSGi spec) can't be satisfied.
> > >     >>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>> Sorry that I don't have time to dig into the actual
> > situation
> > > here,
> > >     >>>>>>> but I
> > >     >>>>>>>> thought I could share some of my past (dark) history....
> ;-)
> > >     >>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>> Cheers
> > >     >>>>>>>> Niclas
> > >     >>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:43 AM Christofer Dutz <
> > >     >>>>>>> christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
> > >     >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >     >>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >     >>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>> But If I search for uses of that class, it's only in the
> > >     >>>>>>>>> org.apache.plc4x.java.spi.connection.NettyChannelFactory
> > > which is
> > >     >>>>>>> in the
> > >     >>>>>>>>> SPI module.
> > >     >>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>> So I am not sure where this is accessed directly from the
> > > outside.
> > >     >>>>>>> I know
> > >     >>>>>>>>> every driver would use the NettyChannelFactory, but that
> > > shouldn't
> > >     >>>>>>> be an
> > >     >>>>>>>>> OSGi type problem as the SPI classes should be able to
> > access
> > >     >>>>>>> their own
> > >     >>>>>>>>> classes.
> > >     >>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>> Chris
> > >     >>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>> Am 31.03.20, 16:07 schrieb "Etienne Robinet" <
> > > 43...@etu.he2b.be>:
> > >     >>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>    Hi,
> > >     >>>>>>>>>    From the log the class is called outside the SPI by
> the
> > >     >>>>>>> transport
> > >     >>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>    Etienne
> > >     >>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>> Le 31 mars 2020 à 15:24, Julian Feinauer <
> > >     >>>>>>>>> j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de> a écrit :
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>> yes, if ist only needed internally its fine.But why does
> > >     >>>>>>> someone
> > >     >>>>>>>>> then get a Class Not Found Exception?
> > >     >>>>>>>>>> This is usually a hint to some class loader issue in
> OSGi
> > >     >>>>>>> which is
> > >     >>>>>>>>> related to exports/ imports.
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>> J
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>> Am 31.03.20, 15:23 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <
> > >     >>>>>>>>> christofer.d...@c-ware.de>:
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>   As this package is only referenced from within SPI,
> > >     >>>>>>> couldn't we
> > >     >>>>>>>>> just exclude it from the package exports?
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>   Chris
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>   Am 31.03.20, 15:17 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" <
> > >     >>>>>>>>> j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>:
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>       Hi,
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>       the issue is that if we export it, then we break
> > >     >>>>>>> Nettys OSGi
> > >     >>>>>>>>> integration as we get a split package situation (two
> > bundles
> > >     >>>>>>> exporting the
> > >     >>>>>>>>> same package, which is forbidden in OSGi).
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>       So I see no easy solution (but had to do the same
> > >     >>>>>>> once as
> > >     >>>>>>>>> Netty is pretty... private).
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>       J
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>       Am 31.03.20, 15:15 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <
> > >     >>>>>>>>> christofer.d...@c-ware.de>:
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>           Hi all,
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>           I just discussed this issue with Etienne and I
> > >     >>>>>>> thought it
> > >     >>>>>>>>> was important for all, so I asked him to bring it here.
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>           In my effort to get the EmbeddedChannel
> working
> > >     >>>>>>> as a full
> > >     >>>>>>>>> "transport" module, I had to override the Netty Bootstrap
> > >     >>>>>>> mechanism.
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>           Unfortunately in order to do so, I need to
> call
> > >     >>>>>>> "init"
> > >     >>>>>>>>> from the derived class. Unfortunately this is package
> > > private in
> > >     >>>>>>> Netty so I
> > >     >>>>>>>>> had
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>           To add it to the same package.
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>           Would it help to just not export these
> packages
> > >     >>>>>>> to OSGi?
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>           But I'm also open for alternatives (Please
> none
> > >     >>>>>>> involving
> > >     >>>>>>>>> mega-evil reflection hackery).
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>           Chris
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>           Am 31.03.20, 15:10 schrieb "Etienne Robinet" <
> > >     >>>>>>>>> erobi...@apache.org>:
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>               Hi all,
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>               I've been working on the Camel Component
> and
> > >     >>>>>>> decided
> > >     >>>>>>>>> to test it inside Karaf, but I noticed that I've got this
> > > error
> > >     >>>>>>> now:
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>               https://i.imgur.com/kUZPwZ5.png
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>               Seems like this class is not exported by
> the
> > >     >>>>>>> bundle
> > >     >>>>>>>>> so it can not be found. Anyone has an idea on how we
> could
> > > solve
> > >     >>>>>>> this?
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>               Etienne
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>> --
> > >     >>>>>> --
> > >     >>>>>> Christian Schneider
> > >     >>>>>> http://www.liquid-reality.de
> > >     >>>>>>
> > >     >>>>>> Computer Scientist
> > >     >>>>>> http://www.adobe.com
> > >     >>>>>>
> > >     >>>>
> > >     >>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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