Hi Lukasz,

even in protocols like ADS and EIP at Rivian everyone is referring to any data 
point as a “Tag”.
So far, I haven’t come across a single person saying something else on LinkedIn.
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6994584721582088192

And keep in mind: PLC4X is meant to be the bridge between IT and OT, and we 
chose a lot of stuff (Like the address patterns, etc.) to match the OT 
expectations. After all, I will most probably be an IT person asking the OT 
person: Please give me the address for Field/Tag XYZ. So, I think naming it 
“Tag” would be better.

I would like to name it to match the most used term: I know that this isn’t 
always a perfect match in all protocols, but I guess that’s the difference 
between providing a “shared API” or building individual drivers for each 
protocol.

And currently we name it “Query” in Go … so you currently say: “AddQuery” 
instead of “AddField”.

Chris


From: Łukasz Dywicki <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, 6. November 2022 at 11:45
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Christofer Dutz 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Rename Fields -> Tags?
Hey Chris,
I am not certain if "tag" is standardized or not. Earlier, knowing only
modbus registers and bacnet objects, I been confused multiple times what
the tag is. For regular IT tag is rather a marker placed on something to
categorize elements. Our field currently specifies rather a unique data
point than a tag.
If tag meaning comes from IEC standard then I'd opt in for a change. If
its not standardized then I'd advice staying with a field. Our use is
mixed IT/OT (with probably still more IT?), if we stick too much to
automation industry terminology then we will need to bake definition of
a tag, fight situations where we miss a "common understanding" cause we
can't beg others for unification of their meaning.

I've seen tag used in context of ethernet/ip (more precisely Rockwell
PLCs), but haven't done a research of why. Keep in mind we have also
object oriented protocols such as BACnet (with `device.object.property`)
and CANopen (with `device.sdo` or `device.tpdo..`) thus in their context
tag is far less meaningful than field.

Cheers,
Łukasz

On 5.11.2022 12:23, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I’m currently working on harmonizing our different API variants a bit and 
> hopefully finalizing our Browse API (Which sort of wen’t through multiple 
> levels of change between Java and Go, back to Java and now back to Go.
>
> One thing I learned at Rivian is, that everyone seems to be talking about 
> “Tags” on PLCs. So I asked on LinkedIn and it seems pretty obvious that “Tag” 
> seems to be the term mostly used in the automation industry.
>
> So, I would like to consequently rename “Field” to “Tag”.
>
> What do you folks think?
>
> Chris
>

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