So, I just took the time to evaluate the results of my LinkedIn question.

There were 25 people voting and I think we can make 96% of all people happy 
with this:

The array notation is:

[lower-bound .. upper-bound] = “[2..5]”
However, it should still be possible to enter something like this: “[5]” but we 
internally interpret that as [0..4]

With my multi-dimensional array question, things were not quite as simple ;-)
It is the IEC notation to write them as: [1...3, 4...5], however more people 
voted for [1...3][4...5]
I was expecting the people voting for the IEC option to be more OT guys and the 
other to be IT guys, but I couldn’t really spot that pattern.

Here I would opt for going with the majority and use the [1...3][4...5] 
notation. However, should the parser be able to also read [1...3, 4...5].

What do you think? Would that be a good way to go?

Chris




Von: Jinlin Hong <myhongjin...@gmail.com>
Datum: Donnerstag, 6. Februar 2025 um 09:07
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Streamline the address format over all drivers
Thank you for your reply, and my apologies for mixing up the bit and array
discussions.
Regarding the array syntax, I think it’s great to allow users to customize
the return format. That said, [5] and [4][6] do indeed represent the same
thing, haha.

Jinlin

Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 於 2025年2月6日 �L四 下午3:19��道:

> Replying to both in one email here.
>
> Regarding the array notation:
> I am proposing to use one format. So if you have a tag and ask it to
> return the string representation, you'll only get one format.
>
> I'm more proposing to make the parser a bit more flexible and support more
> options as input to allow some OT engineering addresses parsable without
> having to reformat all addresses.
>
>
> I think the bit stuff is a completely different discussion. Happy to do
> this in parallel... Let's stick to arrays in this discussion ;-)
>
> Chris
>
>
> Gesendet von Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> ________________________________
> From: Jinlin Hong <myhongjin...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 2:50:34 AM
> To: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Streamline the address format over all drivers
>
> We have previously discussed this, and some of the conclusions might no
> longer apply: Cleanup of how we handle all the bit-related fields
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/PLC4X/Cleanup+of+how+we+handle+all+the+bit-related+fields
> >.
> In my opinion, regardless of the final rules, we just need to finalize it.
>
> Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 於 2025年2月5日 �L三 下午2:27��道:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > I’m playing a bit with my UI thingy and am currently implementing some
> Tag
> > editor.
> >
> > I have inputs for the address string, the type name as well as the
> > array-info and I need to generate the full address string for all drivers
> > from these fragments.
> >
> > Currently it seems not all drivers follow the same structure.
> >
> > I did a survey on LinkedIn on the various aspects of how array-notations
> > could be processed.
> >
> > Even if the survey is not over yet, it does look as if the following
> seems
> > to align with most people:
> >
> > [2..5] implicates elements 2,3,4,5
> > [2..5, 6..9] is a multi-dimensional array
> >
> > Ideally, we should probably also understand things like, but when
> > serializing we should use above notations:
> >
> > [5] is a shorthand for elements 0, 1, 2, 3, 4
> > [4][6] (A more IT-like array definition)
> >
> > Now for integrating things in other tools, I think it would be good if
> all
> > address strings had the following structure (similar to how our
> connection
> > strings work)
> >
> > {protocol-dependent-address}:{typename}{[array-syntax]}{options}
> >
> > The type-name could be omitted for protocols such as ADS where the
> address
> > already defines the type.
> > In that case we should probably also have API types for accessing these
> > parts of the addresses.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > And for STRING and WSTRING to also have optional string-lengths in round
> > brackets behind the STRING or WSTRING.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Chris
> >
>

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