One note on the "Java 11 on develop", besides the 3k we lock ourselves up on ancient legacy versions for eternity... So I'm definitively in favor of a separate branch. So you could use the 200k for maintenance and always then start new projects (with prices) to backport important upstream features.
-Sebastian On 2025/08/14 07:44:30 Christofer Dutz wrote: > While chatting with Sebastian …. I think he was talking about something > different. > > So I was talking about: „Give us 3000€/year and we’ll keep Java 11 on > develop“ „give us 1000€/year and we’ll keep Java 17 on develop" > I think he meant to go to 21 on develop and maintain a „java 11 compatibility > branch“. That’s a huge amount of additional work. Definitely cleaner. > However then it would need to be a community effort to maintain them (and not > just clicking dependabot emails) > > Chris > > Von: Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> > Datum: Donnerstag, 14. August 2025 um 09:36 > An: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org> > Betreff: AW: [DISCUSS] Interesting idea about old-java-version support > > Well … I’m totally open for suggestions? 3001€ is just as „in between“ as > 199€ 😉 > > Another alternative would be to instantly drop it and point out that people > can ask the companies backing PLC4X for Java 11 or even 8 support. > > I’m fine with either ;-) Just want our approach to be driven by consensus and > not what the 3-4 responding want. > > Chris > > > Von: ott.lu...@murena.io.INVALID <ott.lu...@murena.io.INVALID> > Datum: Donnerstag, 14. August 2025 um 09:32 > An: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org> > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Interesting idea about old-java-version support > > Something in between...as it is definetly more work.. > > > Am 14. August 2025 09:27:41 MESZ schrieb Christofer Dutz > <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>: > >Sooooo … I would like to create these open-collective projects. > >Which sums should I use? The ones I proposed? Sebastian’s? Or something in > >between? > > > >Chris > > > > > >Von: Cesar Garcia <cesar.gar...@ceos.com.ve> > >Datum: Freitag, 8. August 2025 um 22:46 > >An: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org> > >Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Interesting idea about old-java-version support > > > >+1 > > > > > >El vie, 8 ago 2025 a las 3:14, Christofer Dutz (<christofer.d...@c-ware.de>) > >escribió: > > > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Sebasitan had a great idea, which I think initially he meant as a joke, > >> but I think the idea is actually really good. > >> > >> We’re currently struggling a bit that we as maintainers need to stick with > >> Java 11 because some users claim to need it. > >> > >> The thing is, this makes many things a lot harder for us maintainers. As I > >> just cut a new release, updating our dependencies before was more > >> challenging as for some dependencies I needed to track down the last > >> version that supports Java 11. > >> > >> Also does it prevent us from updating to the latest version. Not all > >> projects maintain legacy branches (we don’t either). > >> > >> So the idea was: > >> If this is really so important for some of our users and it’s more work > >> for us and potentially harmful for users not stuck at Java 11, how about we > >> create an open-collective project. If we get 2k€-3k€/Year, we keep Java 11, > >> otherwise we drop it and to to 17 ... or we do multiple campaigns: > >> > >> * 3k€/year for Java 11 > >> * 1k€/year for Java 17 > >> Otherwise we go to Java 21? > >> And if one version is gone, it’s gonne for good. > >> > >> We could use the funds to orgaanize community events around PLC4X. > >> > >> What do you think? > >> > >> > >> Chris > >> > > > > > >-- > >*CEOS Automatización, C.A.* > >*GALPON SERVICIO INDUSTRIALES Y NAVALES FA, C.A.,* > >*PISO 1, OFICINA 2, AV. RAUL LEONI, SECTOR GUAMACHITO,* > > > >*FRENTE A LA ASOCIACION DE GANADEROS,BARCELONA,EDO. ANZOATEGUI* > >*Ing. César García* > > > >*Cel: +58 414-760.98.95* > > > >*Hotline Técnica SIEMENS: 0800 1005080* > > > >*Email: support.aan.automat...@siemens.com > ><support.aan.automat...@siemens.com>* >
