Hi Sam,
On Apr 23, 2008, at 4:39 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:53 PM, David Fisher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Sam,
On Apr 22, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
While I, too, can't speak FOR Microsoft, I am quite willing to speak
WITH Microsoft. Particularly if the request was modestly scoped,
and
if doing so would sort the issue right from the start.
It looks like someone from Microsoft has shown up to discuss our
issues
with the OSP, patent grants, etc. Should we respond with a clear
list as
distilled from this very long and often emotional discussion, or
should we
wait until they come back with answers.
I think that it would help us to have a list of statements. Its
clear to me
that you might be the best person to make that list.
I propose a vote of consensus - Do we (A) present a list of
questions as a
reply to Sam Ramji's posting "ApachePOI Email", or (B) wait for
Microsoft's
answers as Sam Ramji promises?
If (A) becomes our choice, then I think we should reach a consensus
about
the list, one that is rather inclusive. I certainly think we should
make
sure to ask all of Andy's questions. I also am not sure that his
are all the
questions that need to be asked.
I am (A) +1. and (B) 0.
I find it mildly disconcerting that this email is posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and yet refers to Sam Ramji in the third person. I'd suggest that a
reasonable precursor to either questions or answers would be a dialog.
My hope is that longer term that the dialog continues. Sam has
indicated (on this very list -- hi Sam!) that his personal goal is to
make the specification easy to adopt by open source projects. Well,
I've never met a spec that I didn't have questions on. If this
mailing list could become the place where developers and spec authors
were to discuss any questions of interpretation that may arise: that
would, in my opinion, be a good outcome.
Sure, but do we need to repeat the previous 100 emails, or otherwise
summarize the issues raised that are still open?
Andy's last 4 responses left me no feeling that we had any definite
plan - a repeat of his "self-immolation" threat was not helpful.
Shouldn't the end result of this discussion be an action list. My
proposal is to create such an ending to this thread now!
I'm not ready to do a summary myself, and completely ready to just
listen to the discussion for awhile. It is not worth my effort to be
treated like a mole in Andy's whack-a-mole approach to discussion.
Do whatever, I'm sure it will be the right thing, as you've always
been a gentleman.
Regards,
Dave
- Sam Ruby
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