Hi,

To be honest, I also don't see too much value in applying such checks.
There will always be failures as soon as larger dependencies are added to a
project and it is nearly impossible to avoid it while at the same time
keeping dependencies up-to-date for fixing security issues.

Dominik.


On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 4:09 PM PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org> wrote:

> We won't be changing this for the release.
> I, personally, do not understand the use of strict dependency convergence
> checks. If you have a few dependencies and those dependencies have common
> transitive dependencies - you are almost guaranteed to have a convergence
> issue.
> Why should these tools not be intelligent enough to spot that log4j 2.24.2
> and 2.24.3 differ only at the patch level (semantic versioning)?
> For me, strict dependency convergence checks are a very poor substitute
> for users running acceptance tests when they want to change the versions of
> their dependencies.
> You should also strongly consider adding more dependencies in your builds
> so that you control the version of the jars explicitly instead of relying
> on the versions in your transitive dependencies. This would also make your
> dependency convergence checks happy.
>
>
>
> On 2025/01/08 14:47:10 Joep Weijers wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Great to hear that 5.4.0 is almost released! I tested the version out
> and did notice the following dependency convergence issue on
> org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-api:
> > (Small Maven quickstart archetype pom with a dependency on poi-ooxml
> 5.4.0, running `mvn dependency:tree -Dverbose
> -Dincludes=org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-api`)
> > [INFO] --- dependency:3.6.1:tree (default-cli) @ test-poi-ooxml ---
> > [INFO] com.topdesk.test:test-poi-ooxml:jar:1.0-SNAPSHOT
> > [INFO] \- org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > [INFO]    +- org.apache.poi:poi:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > [INFO]    |  \- (org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-api:jar:2.24.3:compile -
> omitted for duplicate)
> > [INFO]    +- org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > [INFO]    |  \- (org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-api:jar:2.24.2:compile -
> omitted for conflict with 2.24.3)
> > [INFO]    \- org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-api:jar:2.24.3:compile
> > Not sure if you’d like to address this before release, but this would
> make our build with the dependencyConvergence rule enabled in the Maven
> enforcer plugin unhappy. For now I have fixed it by excluding the log4j-api
> dependency from poi-ooxml.
> > Kind regards,
> > Joep Weijers
> >
> > On 2025/01/07 19:27:58 Tim Allison wrote:
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Apologies for my delay. Looks good.
> > >
> > > Confirmed src.tgz digest
> > > Built locally and ran tests
> > > Integrated with Tika's main branch.
> > >
> > > Thank you PJ, Dominik and team!
> > >
> > > P.S. I did notice some convergence issues. I don't think these are a
> > > showstopper...not clear if we should fix these in XMLBeans or let
> > > downstream users fix them in the next release.
> > >
> > > [ERROR] Dependency convergence error for
> > > org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1 paths to dependency are:
> > > [ERROR]
> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]         +-org.apache.maven:maven-settings:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]           +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > > [ERROR] and
> > > [ERROR]
> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]
>  +-org.apache.maven:maven-settings-builder:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]           +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > > [ERROR] and
> > > [ERROR]
> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]
>  +-org.apache.maven:maven-settings-builder:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]
> > > +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-sec-dispatcher:jar:2.0:runtime
> > > [ERROR]
>  +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.4.1:runtime
> > > [ERROR] and
> > > [ERROR]
> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]
> > > +-org.apache.maven:maven-repository-metadata:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]           +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > > [ERROR] and
> > > [ERROR]
> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]         +-org.apache.maven:maven-artifact:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]           +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > > [ERROR] and
> > > [ERROR]
> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]
>  +-org.apache.maven:maven-resolver-provider:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]           +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > > [ERROR] and
> > > [ERROR]
> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]
> > > +-org.eclipse.sisu:org.eclipse.sisu.plexus:jar:0.9.0.M3:runtime
> > > [ERROR]           +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > > [ERROR] and
> > > [ERROR]
> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]         +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > > [ERROR] and
> > > [ERROR]
> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-model:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]         +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > > [ERROR] and
> > > [ERROR]
> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-plugin-api:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]         +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > > [ERROR]
> > > [ERROR]
> > > [ERROR] Dependency convergence error for
> > > org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-classworlds:jar:2.6.0 paths to dependency
> are:
> > > [ERROR]
> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]
> > > +-org.eclipse.sisu:org.eclipse.sisu.plexus:jar:0.9.0.M3:runtime
> > > [ERROR]
>  +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-classworlds:jar:2.6.0:runtime
> > > [ERROR] and
> > > [ERROR]
> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]
>  +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-classworlds:jar:2.8.0:runtime
> > > [ERROR] and
> > > [ERROR]
> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > > [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-plugin-api:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > > [ERROR]
>  +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-classworlds:jar:2.8.0:runtime
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 4:56 PM PJ Fanning <fa...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > We need at least 1 more review from a POI PMC member before we can
> > > > proceed. If anyone has time, it would be much appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2025/01/02 13:29:43 Dominik Stadler wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I tested the staged binaries with various projects and reviewed
> contents
> > > > of
> > > > > the source-distribution. Also compilation from source did work. So
> > > > > everything fine as far as I see.
> > > > >
> > > > > I vote +1 for release!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks PJ for preparing the release! Dominik.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 8:19 PM PJ Fanning <fa...@yahoo.com.invalid
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello POI Community,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is a call for a vote to release Apache POI version 5.4.0
> (RC2).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The discussion thread:
> > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/4sd7p5z2cxp0l9wb2orw4n0gc9w348gw
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The release candidate:
> > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/poi/5.4.0-RC2/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This release has been signed with a PGP key available here:
> > > > > > https://downloads.apache.org/poi/KEYS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Release Notes:
> > > > > >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/poi/RELEASE-NOTES-5.4.0.txt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will add the svn tag REL_5_4_0 if the vote passes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Svn commit ID:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/poi/trunk@1922754
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please download, verify, and test.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have also staged jars in the Apache Nexus Repository.
> > > > > > These were built with the same code as appears in this Source
> Release
> > > > > > Candidate.
> > > > > > We would appreciate if users could test with these too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If anyone finds any serious problems with these jars, please also
> > > > notify
> > > > > > us on this thread.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/poi/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In gradle, you can add this repository.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > maven {
> > > > > >     url "https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/";
> > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The VOTE will pass if we have more positive votes than negative
> votes
> > > > > > and there must be a minimum of 3 approvals from POI PMC members.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will leave the vote open for at least a week.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [ ] +1 approve
> > > > > > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > > > > > [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To learn more about Apache POI, please see
> https://poi.apache.org/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Checklist for reference:
> > > > > > [ ] Download links are valid.
> > > > > > [ ] Checksums and signatures.
> > > > > > [ ] LICENSE/NOTICE files exist
> > > > > > [ ] No unexpected binary files
> > > > > > [ ] Source files have ASF headers
> > > > > > [ ] Can compile from source
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To compile from the source, please refer to:
> > > > > > https://poi.apache.org/devel/index.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some notes about verifying downloads can be found at:
> > > > > > https://poi.apache.org/download.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is my +1 (binding).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > PJ Fanning (Apache POI PMC member)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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